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SK-H014 – from Andrew McIntyre Crown Office Procurator Fiscal 30-Jul-2009

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/07/2009

SK-H014 – from Andrew McIntyre Crown Office Procurator Fiscal 30-Jul-2009

Subject: RE: Hollie Greig
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:15:08 +0100
From: PSCECA@copfs.gsi.gov.uk
To: bluesmangreen@hotmail.com

Dear Mr Green,

I refer to your e-mail of 27 July in which you express concern because my letter to you was written on behalf of the Lord Advocate and your complaint included reference to the Lord Advocate’s role in 2000 at the Procurator Fiscal’s Office in Aberdeen. Thank you for clarifying the nature of your concern in this regard. I have now had the opportunity to make further enquiry about the case with the Procurator Fiscal’s office at Aberdeen.

The current Lord Advocate was not appointed as the Regional Procurator Fiscal at Aberdeen until 21 July 2000 which was after the decision in this case was taken. Indeed there is no information contained in the records to suggest that the current Lord Advocate had any involvement in this case at any time.

I appreciate, however, that your principal concern relates to the outcome of the investigation and the fact that there has been no prosecution. As I explained in my last email and in our telephone conversation, Grampian Police are continuing to investigate aspects of the case and for that reason I cannot comment on the case or the reasons for any decisions taken thus far. It might be helpful, however, if I explain in general terms how such decisions are taken in Scotland.
When the Procurator Fiscal receives a report of a crime from the police he or she must consider:

whether it is in the public interest to prosecute;

A number of factors may be taken into account when assessing the public interest and these are set out in the Prosecution Code which can be accessed from this link: http://www.copfs.gov.uk/Publications/2001/05/prosecutioncode.

whether there is sufficient admissible evidence in law.

In Scotland, each of the essential elements of the crime requires to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt and on the basis of corroborated evidence which means that there must be evidence from at least two sources to prove that the crime took place and that the accused person was the perpetrator. The Crown has no power to prosecute where the available evidence in the case does not meet that standard.

I have ensured that the Procurator Fiscal at Aberdeen is aware of the particular concerns which you have raised in this case and I can assure you that if any new information is reported to the Procurator Fiscal, it will be considered with the utmost care.

I hope that you are reassured by the information which I have been able to provide.

Andrew McIntyre
Head of Victims and Diversity

Policy Division
Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service

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SK-H002 – GREIG, Hollie from CROWN OFFICE 23-Jul-09

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 23/07/2009

SK-H002 – GREIG, Hollie from CROWN OFFICE 23-Jul-09

We are pleased to have received a letter from:
The Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service
From their Policy Division,
25 Chambers Street,

Dated: 23-July-2009

To understand the significance one needs to have some understanding of Scotland’s legal structure:

The Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service (Scottish Gaelic: Oifis a’ Chrùin agus Seirbheis Neach-casaid a’ Chrùin) provides the independent public prosecution service for Scotland, and is a Ministerial Department of the Scottish Government. The department is headed by Her Majesty’s Lord Advocate, who under the Scottish legal system is responsible for prosecution, along with the area Procurators fiscal. In Scotland, almost all prosecution of criminal offences is by the Crown.

The Service’s responsibilities extend to the whole of Scotland, and include:

Investigation and prosecution of criminal offences
Investigation of sudden or suspicious deaths
The investigation and prosecution of criminal conduct by the police
Assessment and possession of bona vacantia
Assessment and possession of treasure trove
The Lord Advocate is assisted by the Solicitor General for Scotland, both Law Officers. The day to day running of the Service is done by the Crown Agent & Chief Executive and a management board who are based in the department’s headquarters in Chambers Street, Edinburgh.

The Service employs both civil servants who carry out administrative and other duties and solicitors and advocates who represent the Crown in Court.

The Lord Advocate and Solicitor General for Scotland

Main article: Lord Advocate
As well as departmental management responsibility, the Lord Advocate is directly responsible for prosecuting the most serious crimes, in the High Court of Justiciary and the Court of Appeal. Unless the cases are of particular importance, such as the Lockerbie trial held at Camp Zeist in the Netherlands, the prosecutions are normally (but not always) led by Advocates Depute who are known collectively as Crown Counsel and are experienced members of the Faculty of Advocates normally appointed for a limited period of three years.

Their decision to prosecute in this way is taken in the light of the Procurator Fiscal’s recommendations and a report prepared by the police, and any such reports are subject to the direction of the Lord Advocate.[4] This prosecutorial role can not be removed from her by the Scottish Parliament.

The Lord Advocate is the senior of the two Scottish Law Officers, and is the chief legal adviser to the Scottish Ministers as well as representing them in civil proceedings.[5] She is also responsible, under the Scotland Act 1998 for ensuring that each Act of the Scottish Parliament is within the competance of that Parliament. Additionally, she, along with the Solicitor General for Scotland are ex-officio Members of that Parliament. The Solicitor General can act as the deputy for the Lord Advocate.

The Lord Advocate and Solicitor General are one of the Great Officers of State in Scotland, and the Lord Advocate is one of the Scottish Ministers, though since 23rd May 2007 she has not attended the cabinet of the Scottish Government. The position of Lord Advocate has been the subject of controversy, most notably sparked by Scottish High Court judges, wanting the ministerial and prosecutorial role to be separated.

The original of this can be seen if you CLICK HERE

The letter as received reads:

Dear Mr. Green,

Thank you for your email of 20 June 2009 to the First Minister, in which you raise concerns about the handling of a case involving allegations of abuse perpetrated against Hollie Greig. As your concerns relate to a decision taken in respect of a crime reported to the Procurator Fiscal, your correspondence has been passed to the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service for consideration, I have been asked to reply on behalf of the Lord Advocate.

I have looked in detail at your correspondence and have received a report on the circumstances of the case from the Procurator Fiscal at Aberdeen. I can advise you that the circumstances of this case are currently under investigation by Grampian Police. In these circumatances I cannot provide you with any further information about the investigation or the decisions taken thus far because to do so might jeopardise the investigation or any proceedings which could arise in the future.

I can assure you, however, that allegations of sexual abuse of vulnerable people are treated with the utmost seriousness by the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service. The Procurator Fiscal at Aberdeen will consider very carefully any report submitted by Grampian Police as a result of the investigation which they are currently undertaking. If a report is received, the family will be kept informed of any decision taken.

Yours sincerely,


Head of Victims and Diversity

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