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SK-H084 – 31-Jan-10 – R. GREEN > JHK GRIEVE re MURDER R.D. GREIG

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 31/01/2010

SK-H084 – 31-Jan-10 – R. GREEN > JHK GRIEVE re MURDER R.D. GREIG

From: bluesmangreen@hotmail.com
To: j.h.k.grieve@abdn.ac.uk
Subject: Robert David Greig
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:44:11 +0000

Dear Dr Grieve,

It would be helpful if you could respond to the following points.

Are you now a Crown Office pathologist and was this your status when you performed the autopsy on Robert David Greig?

Although I find it highly improbable that you were aware of the powerful motive that existed for Mr Greig to be murdered, is it not the case that suicide by fire is extremely rare, yet arson, which is used to cover up other crimes and destroy evidence, is relatively common.

If you agree with this assessment, regardless of the motive that has since been revealed, why was a full inquest not requested?

Your prompt response would be appreciated in helping to bring this and other related cases to a just conclusion.

Robert Green

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SK-H075 – 28-Jan-’10 – R. GREEN > Dr. LYONS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/01/2010

SK-H075 – 28-Jan-’10 – R. GREEN > Dr. LYONS

From: bluesmangreen@hotmail.com
To: enquiries@mwcscot.org.uk
Subject: Anne Greig
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:03:55 +0000

Dear Dr Lyons,

I attempted to contact you on your e-mail address but it bounced back for some reason.

I thought it wise to give you a little time to recover your composure, but I must tell you that I am in possession of a document sent to Anne Greig`s solicitor from your office dated 1st November 2000, which makes clear that evidence relating to the events of 5th September 2000, when Anne`s human rights were breached by by unlawful sectioning, under the supervision of Dr Alastair Palin, had already “disappeared”, less than two months after the incident.

I have previously approached Palin over this matter, but he has refused to respond, merely adding to the overwhelming view of gross misconduct.

I should tell you that the press already have this documentation, along with reports of your conversations with Anne Greig and me.

I would expect your prompt confirmation that a public inquiry be set up without delay. As you know, the sectioning took place just eleven days after Anne and Hollie had provided the police with the identities of the paedophile rape gang, many of whom hold high status and are well-connected, well-organised and totally ruthless, as is indicated by the murder of Robert David Greig and the shot fired at the home of Anne and Hollie last August.

I am also given to understand that you had already contacted the Crown Office about this affair prior to our conversation, which is at best highly irregular if not extremely suspicious.

I am giving you the opportunity to perform your public duty to avoid any further unnecessary unpleasantness.

Robert Green

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SK-H076 – 26-Jan-’10 – R. GREEN > James CONNECHEN, Mental Welfare!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/01/2010

SK-H076 – 26-Jan-’10 – R. GREEN > James CONNECHEN, Mental Welfare!
4 Birchdale Road
Appleton
Warrington
Cheshire
WA4 5AR

01925 602389

Mr James Connechen
Chair
Mental Welfare Commission of Scotland
Haymarket Terrace
Edinburgh EH12 5HE

26th January 2010

Dear Mr Connechen,

ANNE GREIG/ DR DONALD LYONS

Yesterday, the 25th January, my client Anne Greig was invited to speak to Dr Lyons, at his request, primarily about her sectioning on 5th September 2000.

She was asked to outline her concerns and during the conversation noted that Dr Lyons could think of no reason why she was sectioned. Ms Greig thought this to be an unequivocal statement and this was tantamount to her suspicion that the events of 5th September 2000 had been at best unlawful, but more likely to have been a breach of the law and that the state may have acted criminally.

On further reflection, she asked me to confirm with Dr Lyons, the Director of the Mental Welfare Commission, that in the light of possible criminality, he would instigate a public inquiry.

On phoning Dr Lyons today, in his capacity of a public servant, on Ms Greig`s behalf, Dr Lyons` whole attitude indicated that he was extended beyond his comfort zone and that his attitude and comments confirmed to me Ms Greig`s perception of events..

I therefore now ask for a formal undertaking of the instigation of an ethical, moral inquiry, independently held by the local authorities and look forward to an outline of proposed due process as promptly as possible.

May I add that it is inappropriate for a public servant to determine the length of conversations when struggling to carry out their public duties.

Finally, it is understood that Elish Angiolini, the Lord Advocate of Scotland, has instructed solicitors to defend her position in this matter. Whether the instruction is at her own expense or purloined from the public purse I cannot advise, but owing to the extremely serious nature of this case wish to emulate her clear concern.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Green
Lay Legal Representative to Anne and Hollie Greig

Cc Dr Donald Lyons, Elish Angiolini, Dr Paul Carter

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SK-H099 – PRESS RELEASE – WITNESS GUARANTEE from Robert GREEN

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/01/2010

SK-H099 – PRESS RELEASE – WITNESS GUARANTEE from Robert GREEN

Press Release …

Witness Guarantee Statement from Hollie and Anne Greig and Robert Green
SK-H099 – PRESS RELEASE – WITNESS GUARANTEE from Robert GREEN

Monday 25 January 2010

If any organ of the media, or any of our supporters, are legally threatened by the Scottish Crown Office (Elish Angiolini personally or any of her agents, including her law firm Levy & McRae), Anne and Hollie Greig and Robert Green formally undertake to appear as witnesses in court in order to support anyone who is subjected to such threats.

Robert Green
Lay Legal Representative for Hollie and Anne Greig

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#SKH078* – 21-Jan-’10 – R. GREEN > S. McGOWAN, CROWN OFFICE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 21/01/2010

#SKH078* – 21-Jan-’10 – R. GREEN > S. McGOWAN, CROWN OFFICE

4 Birchdale Road
Appleton
Warrington
Cheshire
WA4 5AR
01925 602389

Mr Stephen McGowan
Procurator Fiscal
Atholl House
84-88 Guild St
Aberdeen AB11 6QA

21st January 2010

Dear Mr McGowan,

HOLLIE GREIG

I have attempted to speak to you over the past two days without success.

Today, I was disappointed to hear from a member of your staff that you refuse to talk to me. Whether this evasion on your part is of a temporary or permanent nature she could not say. It would have been more appropriate for you to tell me yourself, rather than leave it to a junior staff member.

On behalf of my clients, the decision stated in your letter of 19th January will be formally challenged within the next few days.

One point that is particularly objectionable is contained in the fourth paragraph.

You state that the Scottish Courts traditionally place great weight upon any assertion of the Crown that it is not in the public interest for certain documents to be disclosed, except in exceptional circumstances. I would put it to you that there can surely be nothing more exceptional than the conduct of the present incumbent of the office of Lord Advocate, who has provably lied and persistently perverted the course of justice by obstructing investigations into systematic, multiple gang-rape of children and now even murder.

Under Mrs Elish Angiolini, the Crown Office has lost all moral authority in this case and it is thus both presumptuous and arrogant for you to assume that the Scottish Courts would continue to “place great weight” on any information that may emanate from a thoroughly corrupt and discredited Lord Advocate.

Nothing could be more in the public interest than that the full protection of the law be implemented towards its most vulnerable members and more blatant examples of the most sickening and evil crimes committed against Hollie Greig and other children could scarcely be imagined.

It is to be hoped that you will not continue to shirk your public duty and therefore look forward from a positive response and an undertaking that you will not persist in avoiding correspondence with me.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Green
Lay Legal Representative to Hollie and Anne Greig

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‘.


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SK-H098 – 21-Jan-2010 – A SUMMARY IN THE SCOTTISH LAW REPORTER

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 21/01/2010

SK-H098 – 21-Jan-2010 – A SUMMARY IN THE SCOTTISH LAW REPORTER

Thursday, January 21, 2010

Crown Office refuse to release Grampian Police paedophile investigation papers amid claims media were misled over Hollie Greig case

Anne & Hollie GreigAbuse allegations made by Hollie Greig were subject of misleading public statements by Crown Office. SCOTLAND’S CROWN OFFICE is facing claims it issued deliberately misleading statements over a decision by Stephen McGowan, the Aberdeen Procurator Fiscal not to prosecute a group of identified individuals including a serving Sheriff and Police Officers after Grampian Police investigated allegations of rape & abuse by Hollie Greig, a down’s syndrome woman who was forced to flee with her mother to England after the horrific events which took place in Aberdeen, Scotland.

Elish AngioliniLord Advocate Elish Angiolini used Glasgow law firm Levy McRae to silence media publication of allegations of involvement. The allegations, relating to abuse carried out by an Aberdeen based ‘paedophile gang’, made as far back as 2000 have recently seen a number of successful attempts by private law firms such as Levy MCrae solicitors of Glasgow, acting on behalf of Elish Angiolini, the Lord Advocate, to censor website content and reporting of certain parts of Ms Greig’s allegations of abuse.

COPFS to Anne GreigAberdeen Procurator Fiscal’s letter to victim’s mother explaining lack of prosecution. In a letter from Aberdeen’s Procurator Fiscal, Stephen McGowan to Anne Greig, Hollie’s mother, Mr McGowan stated : “In September of this year, your daughter Hollie was interviewed by officers of Grampian Police in Shropshire and provided a statement in which she alleged that she had been sexually abused. Prior to September, other allegations had been made both by Hollie and by you on her behalf. Having reviewed all of the circumstances of Hollie’s case, including Hollie’s statements and all other available evidence, a report was prepared for the consideration of Crown Counsel. The conclusion is that there is insufficient evidence to allow criminal proceedings to be taken against any person in respect of these allegations.”

The Firm – Hollie Greig CENSORED Allegations against Lord Advocate which Scots Law publication “The Firm” printed, then were forced to apologise over, were also mentioned. Curiously, Mr McGowan went on in his letter to detail allegations “made by others” of alleged involvement by the current Lord Advocate Elish Angiolini, in the case, claiming decisions taken in Hollie’s case were taken before or after Ms Angiolini’s time as Regional Procurator Fiscal in Grampian. Mr McGowan continued : “During the course of this investigation, it has been alleged by others that the Lord Advocate, Elish Angiolini QC, had in some way covered up Hollie’s allegations. These allegations are unfounded and this has been supported by a careful scrutiny of the case. All key decisions in relation to prosecution in Hollie’s case in 2000 and 2001 were taken before or after the Lord Advocate’s time as Regional Procurator Fiscal in Grampian and were taken by other senior prosecutors, not the Lord Advocate. In addition, the Lord Advocate has not had any involvement in the recent decision by Crown Counsel that there should be no criminal proceedings.”

A legal insider said he found the references to the Lord Advocate in such a letter explaining a lack of prosecution in an abuse case, to be “unusual”, and questioned why it was included when “others” had made the allegations in the first place.

COPFS emailCrown Office issued ‘alternative version’ to newspapers over reasons why no prosecution took place. To cloud matters even more, it has now been revealed by several journalists the Crown Office issued statements to the press which appeared to contradict the terms of Mr McGowan’s letter to the family over why no prosecutions took place. Where Mr McGowan simply claimed there was “insufficient evidence to allow criminal proceedings to be taken”, the Crown Office’s media unit issued a statement which many claim appears to be an attempt to undermine the events documented in the victim’s allegations, stating : “Historical allegations of sexual abuse made by a 30 year old woman in Shropshire have been thoroughly investigated by Grampian Police. Crown Counsel have considered all the available information and decided that there is insufficient credible, reliable and admissible evidence to justify criminal proceedings in respect of these allegations.”

A spokesman for the family issued a statement contending “there had not been a thorough investigation carried out by Grampian Police” and went onto state several key individuals had apparently not been interviewed by the Police during their ‘investigation’ of Ms Greig’s allegations.

A legal insider said he was concerned the questionable differences between what the Procurator Fiscal had told the family in terms of why there had been no prosecution, compared with what the Crown Office were saying publicly on the case, amounted to an attempt to mislead the victim, the media and the public.

Crown Office FOI Hollie Greig RefusalCrown Office refused FOI request for investigation documents. In an attempt to verify the content of the Grampian Police investigation, reporters, and the victim’s family had made Freedom of Information requests to the Aberdeen Procurator Fiscal’s office for copies of documents gathered during the Police investigation, only to be told by the Procurator Fiscal he had decided to use a public interest exemption, thus refusing to release any documentation under FOI legislation. Mr McGowan said : “I have concluded that to disclose the information which you have requested would jeopardise the freedom and candour with which the police communicate with the Procurator Fiscal and the consideration of that information by police and prosecutors. I have therefore decided that the public interest in maintaining the exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosing the information. On that basis I am refusing to release the information you have requested.”

The Crown Office have so far refused to make any further comment on the case, however a spokesman for the family has said there could be legal action over recent statements issued by the Crown which are being seen as an attempt to undermine Ms Greig’s traumatic experiences and the expectation that allegations of criminal acts reported to the Police should be dealt with according to law.

Hollie’s story, can be read here : http://stolenkids-hollie.blogspot.com/

Posted by Legal Beagle at 3:04 PM

Labels: Aberdeen, Crown Office, Elish Angiolini, Freedom of Information, Grampian Police, Hollie Greig, Stephen McGowan

4 comments:

Charles said…

The Lord Advocate seems to be a serial offender. She is doing her best to prevent the public having any views on the Lockerbie atrocity and the damage it has inflicted on the Scottish political and judicial system.

I don’t think the woman to be a criminal of the league of HW Bush, but why does she have to try so hard to uphold bankrupt American illegality?

7:21 PM

Anonymous said…

Solution to this is to get an outside force (and probably prosecutor) to investigate but it looks like the whole Scottish system is bent so who could do it ?

Interpol ?

10:53 PM

Anonymous said…

I don’t think Angiolini is a bad person. Rather I think that she is a good person who simply does not have the strength of character to stand up to the Old Boy network of judges and civil servants in the establishment.

I thought that she demeaned herself when she jumped at the chance of becoming an honourary member of the Faculty of Advocates. The photos of her and Mulholland standing like school children below the bewigged buffons of the Faculty were cringeworthy.

Pitty that a woman in her position didn’t have the guts to tell the Faculty and it’s hierarchy to get lost.

2:03 PM

Anonymous said…

imagine going to all this trouble to stop a disabled girl getting justice for being raped and abused

Scotland is a very very very sick place

12:57 AM

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SK-H077 – 19-Jan-’10 – CROWN, S. McGOWAN . R. GREEN

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/01/2010

SK-H077 – 19-Jan-’10 – CROWN, S. McGOWAN . R. GREEN

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SK-H081 – 14-Jan-’10 – R. GREEN > Peter WATSON

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/01/2010

SK-H081 – 14-Jan-’10 – R. GREEN > Peter WATSON

From: bluesmangreen@hotmail.com
To: peterwatson@lemac.co.uk
Subject: RE: The Shocking Story of Hollie Greig
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:01:11 +0000

Dear Mr Watson,

Details about me are irrelevant, although I would like to think my work on this horrific case is well known.

What is it about my proposed statement that you suggest is untruthful or inaccurate. I am quite prepared to take your views into account prior to publication. There really is no need to be so defensive or evasive.

Robert Green

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‘.

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SK-H080 – 14-Jan-’10 – Peter WATSON > R. GREEN

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/01/2010

SK-H080 – 14-Jan-’10 – Peter WATSON > R. GREEN

From: peterwatson@lemac.co.uk
To: bluesmangreen@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: The Shocking Story of Hollie Greig
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:32:24 +0000

Mr Green

I have made clear on several occasions that I require you to identify yourself by providing me with your business address and telephone number or your home address .Thus far you have failed to do so. What you set out in relation to this firm is not accurate nor truthful.

We have no comment to make beyond this.

Peter Watson

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‘.

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SK-H079 – 14-Jan’10 – R. GREEN > Peter WATSON

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/01/2010

SK-H079 – 14-Jan’10 – R. GREEN > Peter WATSON

From: robert green [mailto:bluesmangreen@hotmail.com]
Sent: 14 January 2010 17:11
To: peterwatson@lemac.co.uk
Subject: The Shocking Story of Hollie Greig

Dear Mr Watson,

With regard to our recent communications, I am proposing to both publish and include the statements in forthcoming speeches. Although this a provisional rough draft, I trust that you will accept that what I have to say about you and your firm is neither untruthful nor inaccurate.

I`m sure you would support the necessity for prevention of serious crime and that every effort should be made in the greater public interest to ensure that the perpetrators and those responsible for perverting the course of justice should face the legal consequences.

“Sheriff Graeme Buchanan and the rest of the paedophile gang must, in the short term at least, gain satisfaction that they enjoy the protection of the current Lord Advocate to carry on raping and sexually abusing children and those with learning difficulties. By extension, that protection extends to covering up for the murder of Robert David Greig, almost certainly involving a member or members of Buchanan`s gang.

However, the Lord Advocate`s desperation to conceal the truth from the Scottish people about her conduct may be deduced from the understanding that a private law firm, thought to be Levy and McRae, has been instructed to threaten legal proceedings against any section of the Scottish media who might publish factual evidence that may implicate the Lord Advocate in the Hollie Greig case. Such involvement may well be of a criminal nature.

Mr Peter Watson, senior partner and head of litigation at Levy and McRae did not feel it appropriate to comment on if his firm had been so employed and if so, whether its fees were billed to the Lord Advocate personally or were being settled by the Scottish taxpayer. If the latter case is found to exist, this may well by regarded as an abuse of public funds. This is in no way suggests that Levy and McRae may have behaved improperly. There is no evidence to support that.”

I would be interested in your comments, as I do not wish to suggest that your firm has done anything wrong, other than have had an unwitting and innocent association with the issues raised.

Robert Green

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‘.

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