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It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

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HOLLIE GREIG: The ‘devastating fantasies’ of mother Mrs Anne Greig – and the lies of Robert Green and Belinda McKenzie

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Post  MJC on Thu 8 Aug 2013 – 19:56

This report was published about a year ago, but hasn’t perhaps had the exposure it should have had in England.

It’s the best write-up of a hoax that’s deceived tens of thousands into believing that Hollie was repeatedly raped over the course of 14 years at the home of a Sheriff’s sister by up to 31 different people, including leading Scottish judges…

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One devastating fantasy: the impact of an internet scandal

by David Leask, Reporter — Sunday 17 June 2012

Seven children labelled victims, 22 tarnished lives, a business forced to close, a nation’s reputation tarnished.

1: THE CAMPAIGN

IT is the biggest Scottish story on the internet.

A girl with Down’s Syndrome portrayed as the sex slave of a ring of paedophiles for a decade and a half and the victim of a cover-up reaching to the highest law officers and politicians in the land.

This, at least, is the online story of Hollie Greig, a vulnerable young woman who has become the poster girl for conspiracy theorists around the world.

The real story is quite different … but every bit as devastating, according to those smeared by what the Crown Office last night called “unfounded allegations”.

Twenty-two people in and around Aberdeen have been accused of being paedophiles by campaigners styling themselves as “Hollie’s Army”.

Those named include a prominent sheriff who supposedly abused children at the home of his sister, despite the fact he does not have a sister.

And in a clear breach of laws designed to protect victims of sex crimes, another seven people have been named as rape victims along with Hollie.

Four of the “victims” would have been in their 20s at the time of the abuse. Two police investigations have resulted in no charges.

Only one person has been convicted in connection with Hollie Greig: a 66-year-old campaigner from Warrington called Robert Green.

He was jailed earlier this year for harassing those he falsely accused of paedophilia.

Green’s conviction did not make headlines in Scotland. But it did spark international attention on websites such as that of David Icke, the former BBC sports presenter who thinks the world is ruled by lizards.

Green says he received 2000 letters of support from 35 countries while in jail.

His story – now wrapped together with that of Hollie and her mother Anne Greig – also inspired American talk radio shockjocks who rail against the world’s ruling “Illuminati”.

Green has appeared on radio in England, Sweden, Italy and South Africa. Some of these radio shows have joined online bloggers in rubbishing Scotland’s justice system, with Hollie’s case being linked to the Dunblane massacre, the Shirley McKie fingerprint row and even the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Mainstream Scottish journalists have been accused of suppressing the story.

The campaign’s battle cry is “Google Hollie Greig”. If you do, you get more than 400,000 results.

One is the official webpage of the campaign. It compares Hollie’s story to the Dreyfus case – arguably Europe’s highest-profile miscarriage of justice – in which a Jewish officer in the French army was wrongly convicted of spying in the late 1800s.

Another site headlines on Hollie “as an abuse victim of the Scottish Establishment”.

2: THE TARGETS

The jailing of Robert Green – the man who gave the loudest voice to the accusations – did nothing to diminish the online conspiracy theory.

Why not? That is what one widow who was accused of abuse wants to know. Speaking last night, the woman, who does not wish to be named, said: “We are the victims in this.

“We are the ones who have been falsely accused. A man has been jailed. Yet this thing just won’t go away. What is wrong with these people?”

Her friend Sylvia Major knows how devastating it is to live in the shadow of lies and false accusations.

Few of her neighbours in Ferryhill take the claims seriously. The quiet Aberdeen neighbourhood is home to many of the innocent people accused of being part of the abuse network.

Major, a hairdresser, had to close her shop and take early retirement because of the “whispers”. She said: “It has been hellish. It was also claimed that my late husband was a paedophile too, and my kids were really upset.”

Major’s story is typical of the many people falsely accused of being part of the Hollie Greig conspiracy. The thing she finds most galling is that despite being distantly related to Hollie, she only knew the girl for a short time.

“I saw Hollie when she was born but I didn’t see her again till I met her mother in the street when she must have been nearly 18.”

Over the period of a few years in the late nineties, Major would meet Hollie and her mother – now known as Anne Greig – for a gin and tonic at the Ferryhill House Hotel. Then the pair disappeared from her life.

Major is depicted by scores of websites and blogs as a core figure in Hollie’s abuse, said to date from 1985 to 2000, along with her late husband Terry.

In real life, he was a civilian fingerprints officer at Grampian Police. In the internet conspiracy, Major’s partner was a “senior police officer” and her children, like Hollie, were shared by a paedophile ring including the sheriff, a headteacher and social workers.

One of the children abused, according to Green and his conspiracy, was Major’s daughter Cath, named by an online site that ignored the normal legally binding anonymity granted to the victims – proven or otherwise – of sex crimes. Cath was already an adult, and a successful footballer, by the time her mother made friends with Hollie and Anne Greig.

“I wasn’t a victim of child sex abuse,” the 37-year-old said yesterday. “I was playing half-back for Scotland and travelling the world.”

Wyn Dragon Smith, a friend of Greig and Major, was named as a child sex abuser on the internet. “It was ludicrous,” the 69-year-old said yesterday. “It was only later I realised what this was going to mean for me.” Dragon Smith’s health has suffered. So have her finances: she lost a lodger. Her sons – now in their 30s – were also named as those abused.

In the eyes of the campaigners, they are supposed to be victims. But that hasn’t stopped their car and motorbike registrations being put on the internet.

3: THE ‘COVER-UP’

The campaign believes the “establishment cover-up” stretches up to the Lord Advocate’s office. One target was Elish Angiolini, who stepped down as Lord Advocate last year but worked as area procurator-fiscal in Aberdeen in the summer of 2000.

Angiolini has sought a non-harassment order against Green, banning him from approaching her or stalking her online.

That would give her the same protection as the accused sheriff and 15 other supposed “paedophiles” or “paedophile victims” who have been granted court orders against him.

Many, including Dragon Smith, only learned they were named by Greig and Green in 2009 or 2010.

One only found out she had been accused after Green put letters through doors around Ferryhill.

It was those letters – and related internet campaigns – that saw him detained by Grampian Police for committing a breach of the peace.

He was brought in while campaigning as a candidate in the 2010 General Election, despite being effectively banned by interdict from entering Aberdeenshire due to his pursuit of the Hollie conspiracy.

The Crown Office last night said: “The procurator-fiscal at Aberdeen raised proceedings against Green for making unfounded allegations against a number of people via leaflets and the internet, amounting to a campaign of harassment against them.

“The use of the internet to harass members of the public is deplorable and unacceptable. Threatening behaviour of this nature is menacing and is a form of stalking.”

Green is now out of prison, but tagged. He claims his case, delayed as he changed solicitors, was one of the most expensive breaches of the peace in Scottish history.

He regrets nothing. He told the Sunday Herald he was protecting children from suspected paedophiles.

4: THE MOTHER

Wyn Dragon Smith believes Anne Greig, with whom she was very close in the late 1990s, is a very vulnerable woman. Nevertheless, she is furious with her.

“I loved her to bits,” she said yesterday. “I believe she has mental health issues but how could she put her best friend on a list like this? She is the source of this evil lie.”

The Sunday Herald yesterday approached Greig for comment through Green, but she did not respond.

Greig was sectioned in September 2000 in Aberdeen, a week or so after she took Hollie to a police station to name a list of abusers. Inevitably, her supporters believe she was hospitalised as part of the cover-up.

Green last night insisted Greig was quite sane, and produced documents showing assessments from psychiatrists agreeing with this.

However, social services in England, where Hollie and her mother now live, are worried about the family. The local council is currently involved in complex legal proceedings involving Hollie.

Campaigners say this is an action to have her declared mentally incapable. They staged a protest outside the Royal Courts of Justice in February during a connected case.

Greig and Green are barred by an English injunction from taking Hollie to demonstrations.

5: THE ‘ARMY’ DESERTERS

Tom, a forty-something accountant from Aberdeen, along with several other former members of “Hollie’s Army”, has turned his back on the campaign and apologised to those they accused – in person.

The growing group of former Green allies has now launched an internet counter-attack. Last week they published a YouTube video of Major and Dragon Smith telling their side of the story and – perhaps most devastating – the 2008 report by the Scotland’s Police Complaints Commissioner saying there was no evidence to support any of the campaign’s claims.

They are not the first to split away from Hollie’s Army. The campaign reacts by suggesting former friends were spies. Its official website explains how to spot what it calls “MI5, trolls and disinformation agents.”

It says: “Hollie’s abusers are part of a much bigger group that has tentacles throughout the echelons of the British Establishment, which is why from the offset Hollie’s campaign has attracted their most trusted agents.”

The site also invites donations through a Paypal account, which it says will help fund a private prosecution of “Hollie’s abusers”.

Among the protesters supporting the campaign are members of the British branch of the Truth Movement, many of whom believe the US government and not al-Qaeda terrorists attacked New York’s Twin Towers on September 11, 2001.

“The Truthers jumped on the Hollie Greig case,” explained Tom. “In fact, they used to promote the Hollie case more than their 9/11 theories. Basically, we are talking about people who think that Scotland is run by Satanists and paedophiles.”

6: THE REPORTERS

Green likes to draw parallels between Hollie’s fate and that of Stephen Lawrence, the London teenager murdered by racists only convicted 19 years after the crime.

One of the reporters closest to the Lawrence family was Mark Daly. Now BBC Scotland’s investigations correspondent, Daly looked in to the Hollie case in 2009.

He wasn’t the first investigative reporter in Scotland to do so. Like others who had investigated, Daly – initially intrigued by the fact Hollie had received compensation – dropped the story, unconvinced.

The result was an astonishing outburst of intense online abuse.

“I hope somebody rapes you,” one internet poster told Daly. “You talk pish.”

The journalist explained his decision last night. “I knew that the vast majority of these allegations would be impossible to prove,” he said. “Then I became part of the ‘cover-up’.

“I had apparently been threatened by the government and my bosses at the BBC to drop the story or I would lose my job. It was insulting and preposterous.”

Daly received hate mail. Members of Hollie’s Army protested outside BBC studios.

“The truth,” Daly added, “is that the claims of the paedophile ring were based on a tissue of false assertions.

“Hollie’s campaign was fronted by people claiming to be ‘truth seekers’ and ‘investigators’.

“They claimed they were doing this for Hollie and were among the last champions of free speech in Scotland.

“But their campaign is about the most flagrant abuse of free speech that I can think of. And as for the welfare of Hollie, it seems to me that was the last thing these people had on their minds.”

Aberdeen 2000: how the allegations started

THE claim that Hollie Greig had been sexually abused was first reported to Grampian Police by her mother in 2000.

Robert Green passionately believes the claim is true. He said: “Hollie has never had any possible motive to say anything that is not the truth. The same cannot be said for any of those who deny her allegations.”

Green says his views are supported by the fact that the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority (CICA) awarded Hollie £13,500.

The CICA was told a doctor had examined Hollie and found evidence that she had had sex – although there was no evidence to suggest with whom.

A Grampian Police inspector told the authority that “on the balance of probability” the young woman had been the victim of abuse at some point in the past, but said there “was never a sufficiency of corroborative evidence to make a prosecution viable”.

The police told the CICA the allegations from Hollie’s mother that a “large number of people” had been involved in the abuse “were difficult to find evidence for”.

CICA – using a burden of proof far lower than that which would be required for a criminal conviction, “beyond reasonable doubt” – decided to make the award in 2005.

They say Hollie reported that her uncle had seen her abused by another relative. However, Hollie’s uncle, Roy or Robert Greig, took his own life in 1997. His car caught fire near Balmedie, north of Aberdeen, as he tried to kill himself with exhaust fumes. A passer-by pulled him out of the car and resuscitated him.

The Sunday Herald understands a post-mortem examination showed Greig had broken ribs and a bruise to the back of his head. Both are consistent with attempts to revive him. Green and Greig believed he was murdered to stop him talking.

Law enforcement agencies regard the matter as closed.

The allegations of a paedophile ring have been investigated twice.

Grampian Police interviewed Hollie and her mother several times from 2000 onward and filed a report with the procurator-fiscal in Aberdeen.

Through Interpol, they traced a relative of Hollie who was questioned overseas under caution, but released without charge due to “insufficient evidence”.

Different officers re-investigated the claims in 2009 after the case blew up on the internet. They filed another report to the procurator-fiscal.

Many in “Hollie’s Army” believe reports to the fiscal amount to evidence of wrongdoing, but there is no suggestion the reports contained such evidence.

Greig formally complained to Grampian Police about the first investigation, as well as about a series of other allegations she made, including the murder of her brother.

The complaint most cited by her supporters is the failure of police to interview more than one of the 22 people named by Hollie. However, Greig’s complaints were investigated and dismissed. The force’s handling of the complaints was upheld by Scotland’s independent police watchdog in 2008.

Grampian, according to an anonymised response to Greig published by Scotland’s Police Complaints Commissioner (PCCS), carried out “background checks on all the individuals concerned to establish if there was any other basis upon which to proceed- there was nothing found as a result of these checks which supported the position.”

The anonymised published response from Grampian Police to Greig’s complaint also that revealed officers – and a social worker attending the interview – had concerns about Hollie’s list of abusers when she first revealed it.

The report said: “Further questions to help establish whether X [Hollie] understood what telling the truth meant did not result in a position where those present were comfortable with accuracy of the allegations being made.”

The Crown Office last night repeated its official line regarding the case: that after two police investigations, its counsel decided there was “insufficient credible, reliable and admissible evidence” to justify criminal proceedings.

To view David Leask’s original article in The Herald
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More information about the hoax perpetrated by Hollie’s mother. Robert Green and Belinda McKenzie is at:

www.theholliegreigcoverup.net

To view the full article & comments:
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You will find some 33 pages of comments but below I have posted the most recent page though you are welcome to plough through all 33 pages if you wish.

Clearly on THIS web site I have absolutely no wish to obfuscate genuine comment, however I do choose not to place links to sites which I consider to be dishonest, corrupt or a pack of lies such as that of Brian Gerrish, Belinda McKenzie, Robert Green, David Icke, Matt Quinn and similar liars, criminals or abusers.


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Re: HOLLIE GREIG: The ‘devastating fantasies’ of mother Mrs Anne Greig – and the lies of Robert Green and Belinda McKenzie

Post  No Fate Worse Than De’Ath on Thu 8 Aug 2013 – 20:26

This is the correct website address.
 
http://www.theholliegreigcoverup.net/

I’m embarrassed to admit that I did believe Hollie Greig’s mother for a while. What first made me doubt her story was seeing and hearing Hollie herself. She is supposed to have recounted in graphic detail everything that happened to her over many years, all the names, dates and places.

While I am sure that some Down’s Syndrome sufferers are capable of doing this, it is patently obvious that Hollie is not. She barely understands anything that’s said to her and, when she comes up with a wrong answer, her mother intervenes and claims that she said something else.

In my opinion, Anne Greig is a very disturbed woman indeed.

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Post  Châtelaine on Thu 8 Aug 2013 – 20:35

It makes me angry, NFWTD, because a flimsy case like this is pulling the carpet underneath a lot of genuine ones. IMO, of course.
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Post  No Fate Worse Than De’Ath on Thu 8 Aug 2013 – 20:38

That’s my opinion too, Chatelaine.

There can be no doubt that there are child molesters in all walks of life (with the ones in high places getting away with their crimes) and that’s what made the story believable at first.

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Post  Châtelaine on Thu 8 Aug 2013 – 20:42

Oh, yes, NFWTD, there are miserable, despicable creatures in any walk of life. And those are the ones we should get and call to justice.
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Post  Cherry Blossom on Fri 9 Aug 2013 – 10:31

Over the years I have read articals about Hollie Greig and tended to believe them especialy when she had the support of well known people, Annie Lennock, Bill Maloney, If all the alligations were a hoak then the manipulation of a vunerable child for all those years is appalling. I just hope it’s not part of a high powered cover up. There are only two people who know the real truth and thats Hollie and her mother.

In this artical it amazed me how the McCanns were mentioned.

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Several years ago, Denis and Greg Mackie went to live in Portugal. On 8th May 2007, immediately following Madeleine McCann`s disappearance, Anne Greig, accompanied by a victim`s support witness, went to her now local police station in Shrewsbury to tell them to alert the Portuguese Police, as despite the proven case of paedophile abuse, neither of the Mackies had a record of any kind. The McCann team has accepted that the Mackies ought to have been questioned immediately. It is now understood that the British Police failed to pass on these details to their Portuguese counterparts.

Hence, the official cover up has even extended to detracting from the Madeleine McCann investigation. The family home in Portugal is over 100 miles away from where Madeleine McCann disappeared – there is no evidence to substantiate Roberts other claims.

http://www.theholliegreigcoverup.net/the-hoax…..html

Has anyone else come across the names Denis and Greg Mackie before, apart from the Hollie case?

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Post  No Fate Worse Than De’Ath on Fri 9 Aug 2013 – 15:09

I came across the Greig case in late 2009, around the same time that I belatedly realised that all was not what it seemed with the McCann one.

I really did think for a while that the same high-ranking Scottish paedophiles might be involved in both cases when I knew that Anne Greig’s ex-husband and son were in Portugal. Now I do not believe that there is any connection apart from – dare I say it – the common denominator of an unhinged hate-filled woman hell-bent on getting revenge on those who don’t believe her.

We have a member here who is one of the owners of the HG cover-up site. I have sent her a private message asking if she has a link to an interview which shows that Hollie has very little understanding and, in my opinion, could never have provided the information which it is claimed that she did. It used to be on the website but isn’t now.

If I hear from her, I’ll let you know.

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Post  marconi on Fri 9 Aug 2013 – 15:41

when wil the McCanns give an interview demanding the British government to search for Madeleine in a forest in Vietnam?
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Post  Maggs Shaw on Fri 9 Aug 2013 – 17:55

No Fate Worse Than De’Ath wrote:I came across the Greig case in late 2009, around the same time that I belatedly realised that all was not what it seemed with the McCann one.

I really did think for a while that the same high-ranking Scottish paedophiles might be involved in both cases when I knew that Anne Greig’s ex-husband and son were in Portugal. Now I do not believe that there is any connection apart from – dare I say it – the common denominator of an unhinged hate-filled woman hell-bent on getting revenge on those who don’t believe her.

We have a member here who is one of the owners of the HG cover-up site. I have sent her a private message asking if she has a link to an interview which shows that Hollie has very little understanding and, in my opinion, could never have provided the information which it is claimed that she did. It used to be on the website but isn’t now.

If I hear from her, I’ll let you know.

I have sent you a pm….can you let me know that you have received it….many thanks.


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Post  No Fate Worse Than De’Ath on Fri 9 Aug 2013 – 19:48

marconi wrote:when wil the McCanns give an interview demanding the British government to search for Madeleine in a forest in Vietnam?

This does not appear to be on the right topic!

Maggs Shaw, many thanks for letting me know where to find the interview. This is a link to the relevant part, between 3.00 and 4.00.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwPsUafWuTw

This is only one extract of a very long interview with Anne Greig and Robert Green and I haven’t seen all of it. If there’s anyone who can stomach listening to Anne Greig’s fantasies, I’ll be interested to know if Hollie says anything else.

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Sonia Poulton’s interesting insight into the liar David Icke

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/01/2014

Sonia Poulton’s interesting insight into the liar David Icke

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This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE CLICK HERE

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Hi,

this posting of a factual account of her dealings with David Icke gives an interesting insight into the vile man’s style and behaviour.

Some may remember that when he published unfounded lies about me in an effort to defame me and denigrate the facts I was publishing some years ago to expose the lies surrounding Hollie Greig as invented by Anne Greig and Robert Green and widely promoted by Robert Green, Belinda McKenzie, George McKendrick, David Icke, Matt Quinn and many others.

As is well documented I was the first individual to speak out exposing the scam , as soon as I was able to show beyond reasonable doubt that I had been lied to and had misguidedly for a short period promoted the hoax on behalf of Anne Greig and later Robert Green.

For having shown that the entire story was a tissue of lies, conjecture and fantasy put about by wicked and criminal individuals not only did I receive death threats and cyber bullying as can be found by a brief search of the internet.

David Icke was amongst those seeking to promote lies about me and although I had a cast iron case my solicitor and barrister advised me that it was probable that David Icke would prove to be ‘a man of straw’ having sheltered his assets either off shore or under various subterfuges and that I would find myself liable for costs (considerable) with no means of recouping them from the odious low life David Icke.

There was also the possibility that in view of the idiotic nature of many of his other claims as with his claim to be some sort of second coming or messiah and his fantasies about lizards and the moon, just to mention two – he might have an defense of unsound mind!

I decided to drop the case as clearly those who knew me were well aware of the pack of lies he and others were peddling, and the opinions of others about me were of no consequence to me!

The same was also true of the clear case showing the dishonest efforts of low lifes such as Belinda McKenzie, Matt Quinn, George McKendrick and others of even less consequence or credibility.

That David Icke is a liar, a cheat, a bully, a scoundrel and self serving is irrefutable – it would seem that Sonia Poulter has reason to believe he may well also be dishonest thief:

SONIA POULTON 

I have been overwhelmed by the support I have received following my departure from The People’s Voice on Monday, January 6, 2014. 

This is my statement of events. 

During the brief period when I worked as a full-time journalist and presenter at The People’s Voice office in Wembley – every week day, sometimes 12 hours a day for the period from November 18th to January 6th – various volunteers and staff made alarming comments to me about the financial accounting at The People’s Voice. 

I was told that public money had been ‘squandered’, ‘spent unwisely’ and ‘in an easy-come, easy-go manner’. I was informed that various pieces of equipment, including a handheld camera, had ‘gone missing’. It was alleged that money had been paid to someone who did not warrant being paid and who shared a property in Wembley with David – amongst other accusations. 

Given these suspicions I was not happy with David Icke and Sean Adl-Tabatabai – TPV’s station manager – suggesting a second telethon on January 3, 2014. This was to raise more money for TPV following a two-week Christmas break from live programming. 

I realised that the public, who had already donated far in excess of £300,000, was losing some goodwill towards TPV – and for a number of reasons. 

I felt, as did other members of staff who said it to me – but did not have the courage to say it to David Icke directly – that all financial dealings should be public and transparent. 

I believe, and conveyed this to David Icke, Sean ADL and Liz Roberts – in their respective roles as Station Manager and Production Manager – that all money paid out – including expenses and staff wages should be published monthly. This idea never progressed beyond the asking stage. 

This, and other issues reached a head for me on Friday night when I was asked to take part in the telethon to raise money even though I didn’t know entirely where the previous public money had gone to. 

I should add I refused point blank to take part in the first telethon in early November before the station had even launched. Not only was I unimpressed with some of the content of that telethon, as a representation of TPV, but I felt there was something wrong in asking the public for more money BEFORE they had seen even one programme. 

So it was that I was not happy to do this latest telethon but I did it because I wanted TPV to succeed. 

Despite my misgivings, I put my heart into it including organising a Question Time-style panel and a film recorded on New Year’s Eve about people who are doing important activism to make positive changes to our world. 

I was, and remain, proud of this input – and output – and all the people involved in making this happen and all for only the petrol money to cover the filming. 

After the telethon, I slept badly on Friday night and by Saturday morning I had sent an e-mail to David Icke outlining my serious concerns about the finances at The People’s Voice. 

I heard nothing back from him. This was unusual because David is not only a prolific writer but he has always responded within hours, sometimes minutes, of my sending him an e-mail. 

I arrived at the TPV office on Monday about 10am. David’s office door, a glass-type partition, was closed and I tapped on it. He refused to look up at me and kept staring at the screen in front of him. 

Undaunted, I opened the door, said ‘good morning’ and asked if I could have a talk with him. He refused. He said he had to wait until Sean arrived before we could talk. I asked him when that would be. He said any minute. 

Sean arrived about 45 minutes later. Liz Roberts, Head of Production, came to me and said they were ready for the meeting. Then, somewhat oddly, she led me to the darkened, sound-proofed studio where the music and performance segment of TPV is recorded. 

I was uncomfortable with this as I was uncertain why we were meeting in here seeing as David normally conducts meetings in his or Sean ADL’s office, both at the end of the TPV main office. 

Several chairs had been placed in the darkened studio in a semi-circle and I sat down on the chair that was most set apart from the others. Sean ADL took a seat and Liz Roberts went to get David Icke. It was silent between Sean and I and we waited a minute or so until David Icke joined us. 

I could see that David was already furious when he arrived in the room. He looked how I had seen him on several other occasions when he has lost his temper with members of staff. He sat down on the chair directly opposite me and in the middle of Sean ADL and Liz Roberts and I said, ‘who’s going to start?’ 

David said that seeing as I was the one with the allegations, it should be me. 

I told him that for the past few weeks people in the office – including volunteers and paid staff – had been coming to me and making troubling accusations about misappropriation of the funds. 

I had heard stories of nights out on expenses, of many rounds of drinks and food being bought in pubs, of takeaways and alcohol being ordered to the People’s Voice by – and for – paid staff members. 

There were even more outrageous accusations told to me including people who received money from TPV who had some personal involvement with David Icke. 

I told David, Sean ADL and Liz Roberts that TPV was struggling financially because public goodwill towards TPV was at a low ebb because, amongst other things, a lack of transparency. 

I said that I felt it personally important to see how the money had been spent up to this point – and not least because David always agreed with me about the importance of transparency in all dealings. 

David’s voice was raised and he demanded to hear more of my allegations and who they involved. 

I felt that this was some kind of a trap and I said I wasn’t going to name names at this stage and that I just wanted to see where the money had been spent. He refused. He said I would have to wait until the end of the year. He was furious that I dared to question the funds. 

His entire attitude was indignant and outraged by my request. I asked him if I would need to put in a Freedom of Information request to get the information from The People’s Voice regarding accounting. 

I was shocked by the corporate front that David Icke, Liz Roberts and Sean ADL were showing me with regard what had happened with the money and I said that I believed TPV was operating no differently – with it’s hierarchy of decently paid management, numerous unpaid volunteers and no accountability – to the corporations we despised. 

It was at this point that David Icke lost his temper completely. He started shouting that I was the most divisive character that he had ever met in the media and that everyone hated me at TPV. He asked Liz Roberts to back this statement up but she couldn’t. Given that Liz has previously stated in public in the office that I am ‘an example to all of us’, I didn’t feel that she could really back up his accusation with any credibility. 

This emotional attack from David alarmed me greatly. I had only asked for financial transparency and not only was he refusing to let me have this information but he tried to use intimidation techniques to deflect me from pursuing it too. 

David Icke tells everyone I am a PROPER journalist. His words. When I am on air I am told he walks from office to office, pointing at the screen and saying ‘that’s real journalism’. The big problem here is 

David Icke is only happy when I am investigating anyone or anything other than him and The People’s Voice. 

I am not saying that anyone has carried out fraud at TPV. I have no proof of that. What I am saying, however, is that I believe there exists a cavalier attitude, at times, to the spending of public funds. 

At TPV I have seen the letters of people who donate their hard-to-come-by cash. Children giving up their pocket money and pensioners contributing part of their pension. It greatly upsets me to see the laissez faire attitude towards their money. 

The statement on my departure released by TPV and written by David Icke – according to Liz Roberts in correspondence with presenter Barrie Sharpe – was designed to smear me. 

None of what was said even came up in the meeting yesterday morning. David Icke’s statement was an affront not only to me but to anyone who supports me and to anyone who donated their time, efforts and money to TPV. Thank goodness so many people have seen right through it and reacted accordingly. 

I would be more than happy to debate TPV with David Icke, Sean Adl-Tabatabai and Liz Roberts on camera and in a neutral environment. I have nothing to hide. 

It is not me who seeks to take people into a darkened room away from other people in the office at the point when the person wants to address important questions about alleged financial mismanagement. I am, and remain, transparent in my dealings. 

I am informed by a member of staff that there have been orders to ‘remove me’. This includes taking down a great deal of information I have conveyed on film at TPV including a video we shot on New Years Eve about children being taken into care and about people campaigning against fracking. 

David Icke says The People’s Voice is about ‘the content and not the personality’. If that is so, why would he have sanctioned the removal of ‘the content’ that I contributed to The People’s Voice? 

Content, I might add, that I have already copied and feel totally at liberty to post on to Youtube. I believe that the public, who paid for this, is entitled to that and it should not be stopped because of the vindictive behaviour of people who claim to know better. 

I am in no doubt that David Icke shouted at me in the meeting because, rather than accept that there may be a problem of a certain culture growing at TPV, he chose to deflect the blame for his failings onto me and my character. 

I acknowledge that I am capable of being a fiery character. I’ve said it on camera. It’s part of who I am but it is entirely wrong – as they suggest in the official statement about my departure – to suggest that I don’t treat people with respect. 

You only have to look at the wonderful things that have been said about me following my departure from TPV. I am quite blown away by the strength of support. 

So I have to ask: why would David Icke attempt to smear my character? I only asked where The People’s Voice money had gone to? 

Hardly an unreasonable question, I thought, given myself – and many others – were contributing great amounts of time and money to making TPV happen. 

I’m not looking for a medal but I did more than work at TPV, I have also put my hand in my own pocket and have funded a hire car, petrol, pictures and food for volunteers. 

I am far from financially wealthy and I am a single parent with only my income coming in, but I have contributed what I could because I believed in what TPV was capable of. 

I am deeply upset what has come to pass. It has taken me a day to compose my thoughts into any semblance of order. I believed in the capability of TPV. I don’t anymore. As it stands, it is not capable of being the true media we so desperately need in this world. 

When I was sat in the meeting yesterday morning I realised that these three people before me were not capable of creating an alternative media. I knew that if I were to stay a moment longer I was in danger of damaging my own hard-won reputation of honesty and misleading the public too. I could not do that and that is why I left. 

I am also upset because there are people at TPV whom I have become very fond of. Good people who want to make a better world but who are unaware – or don’t know how to deal with – the real issues of injustice right under their noses. 

It won’t stop me trying to create that media I can imagine, though. I have gained a great deal of understanding of what not to do and I have plans right now how to implement my own show. I will only do this if it can be completely transparent because that is what I believe we need more of in this world. I thought TPV could offer that. It didn’t. 

For the record, David Icke needs to understand that respect – as his official statement about me calls for – is a two-way street. He is so used to being all-powerful in his environment that he responds badly to being challenged. 

Despite repeatedly saying that ‘presenters have free-will’ David Icke did not hesitate to make known some of his dissatisfactions with me inviting on guests whom he had fallen out with in the past. 

I witnessed that side of him and so did Sean ADL and Liz Roberts. They sat back and allowed it to happen. That’s why they are still there. They do not challenge him because to do so would challenge the comfortable and unaccountable existence at TPV that they have come to enjoy. 

Both Sean ADL and Liz Roberts publicly have stated that TPV may not survive beyond the end of January unless the station gets more money in. Well, as two of the people who have access to TPV’s funds, they would know. 

As of this afternoon I have not received the requested information on financial accounting. How difficult can it be to show how much has been donated to The People’s Voice and where and by whom it has been spent? 

Upon receipt of the information from The People’s Voice, I will report on my findings just as I report on the behaviour of other organisations. 

The silence from the station, in response to the extraordinary support of people who are appalled at the statement issued by David Icke on behalf of The People’s Voice, speaks volumes. 

This is my statement of the events of yesterday at The People’s Voice with David Icke, Liz Roberts and Sean Adl-Tabatabai. I have sent this statement to all these three people as well as posting it on my website and on social network sites.

Sonia Poulton, January 7th, 2014.

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Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 05/01/2014

This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

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GUEST POST which DRIFTS Off Topic.

Hi Greg,

sorry, but tried posting another comment on your blog
https://holliegreigetc.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/a-guest-post-collating-much-of-the-hollie-greig-fantasyscam/comment-page-1/#comment-436

 but WordPress still won’t let me!
Kindly again post the following on my behalf –
from Sharon Ann Zaki:

As with all trolls you cannot have a rational intelligent debate.

Trolls do not reveal their true identity.

Trolls lie.  This JS42UK/Py/HGJ/HDJ troll could be a mason.  It could be the Brian Gerrish troll, who may or may not be a mason.  We don’t know and trolls don’t advertise it.  It’s irrelevant anyway.

This is from a page on my site:

The real power running throughout everything worldwide is within the secret societies.  There are many different ones and within each are many levels or degrees.  It is these secret societies which are facilitating the NWO agenda.  The largest and most well known secret society is Freemasonry.  The masonic network runs throughout all Governments, all Government agencies, all Councils and all Authorities, all political parties and political systems, all judicial systems, banking systems, ‘educational’ systems, commerce, mainstream media, royalty, the church and all religions, all intelligence agencies … EVERYTHING.  Once we understand that it is easy to see how corruption continues unchecked and without redress and why there is so much poverty, suffering and injustice worldwide.  For ease of reference we can refer to the masons as the funny handshake brigade; or more appropriately, the dirty brigade.  Please note, one does not have to be a mason to be beholden to masonry. 

I became very familiar with how freemasonry works when I found myself up against the Establishment corruption during my journey through the secret hell of the family courts.  It started in 1998 when I left my ex partner and the father of my two youngest children, and continued for the following 6 years.  [All detailed in my story.]  I could not fathom what was happening to me and my children and so I spent a great deal of 1999 finding out.  [My ex had warned me many times not to cross him; telling me “you don’t know who I am”; saying that he was friends with the police; that he was “in with them” …]   Local businessmen, some street bobbies and even masons themselves told me that what I was experiencing was due to the maligning influence of freemasonry and that there was nothing I could do about it.  I soon learned that when you challenge officialdom, you upset the masons and when you do that, whether inadvertently or otherwise, you get punished.

Determined that the truth be told [for my own protection and that of my children and because I couldn’t stand the lies and the injustice] I approached various newspapers, magazines and TV documentary makers … only to be fobbed off.  I then began phoning in to radio talk shows … only to get cut off.  I wrote two books which earned me some good reviews from publishing agencies … but nothing else.  I contacted MPs … and got short shrift.  So I was delighted when finally I scoured the internet and discovered James Todd of VOMIT fame who was doing sterling work supporting victims of masonic persecution and exposing the truth about the evil machinations of the masonic mafia.

James published my story in a number of installments; but unfortunately publication of Vomit ceased.  I then started this site and also began to publish on behalf of other victims until I was persuaded by my new love [now hubby] and older children to take a break from it all due to the demands on my time and the fact that I faced the real risk of losing J & M.

Within the next few years a growing number of other victims and seekers of truth were discovering the power of the internet.  Victims found each other and formed support groups.  Various ‘Truth’ sites and blogs sprang up and suddenly the ‘ordinary’ person had the means to access and spread real truth and important information.  Thus began the ‘awakening’.  Almost overnight the ‘little’ people collectively became a very real threat to the ruling elite.  That, of course, was not part of the plan for the PTB and the awakening had to be curtailed.  Step forward the ‘Controlled Opposition’ [perhaps a more fitting description would be the ‘pretend opposition’.]

We now have what is known as a ‘controlled opposition’ to the NWO agenda.  These C/O agents are commonly known as gatekeepers and they are the shills and other troll-types and they too are obviously controlled by the secret societies.  It really doesn’t matter if they are themselves freemasons, or skull & boners or rotarians or orangemen …  We can waste much time and energy playing the game of trying to prove Gerrish, Icke, Spivey, Alex Jones, Richard D Hall, Alex G … are masons or members of any other secret society.  All of that is totally irrelevant.  What is relevant is that the NWO gatekeepers by definition cannot be anti-NWO warriors i.e. independent genuine truthers.  One glaring clue that the ‘truth movement’ is headed by shills is that they are all smart movers and shakers and well trained in psychological warfare.  You do not get to be an agent of the State unless you are a clever bugger and a very able psy-warrior.   In layman’s language these double agents very cleverly and constantly come up with ways to fool us, confuse us, get us off the scent, muddy the waters and then muddy them some more … so that we give up and go back to sleep.  Basically they are paid to head f..k us.  Remember the real battlefield is for our minds.  It is a fact that at the higher levels of all secret societies there are some of the most brilliant minds.  Our ‘truther’ talking heads are very intelligent folk.  The shills/trolls/illuminati puppets … call them what you like … control almost all of the ‘alternative media’ and are more traitorous than the mainstream media and more dangerous than corrupt judges and officials.  Another clue that they are undercover agents is that the ‘big guns’ are backed by very powerful entities that have no limits to their technology and resources.  So who is backing them?  High up members of the all-powerful secret societies.  You don’t get that kind of support when you are a genuine fighter against the NWO, you get persecuted instead.        

If we are to have any hope of stopping the NWO, we have to let Truth see the light of day.  In order to do that, we have to expose the people who seek to suppress it.  The task now of the genuine truth seeker/teller is to expose the pretend truthers.  That brings me onto the Hollie Greig connection.  In 2010 some people who had previously been active supporters of the HG story began to question its veracity.  They formed the Hollie Hoax group and began collecting and collating the evidence which proves it is a hoax.  From July 2012 when Mel Ve interviewed the Hoax group on Finding Voices Radio, an abundance of evidence was presented which completely debunks the HG story such that anyone in the alternative media who still supports it is obviously a shill.  Any right-minded person, and especially an ‘alternative media’ ‘truther’ spokesperson with an ounce of integrity would condemn the people who champion it.  I outline in detail my reasons for believing that the HG story holds the key to revealing the NWO gatekeepers.  To sum it up you only have to ask some simple questions: Why does almost everyone in the ‘alternative media’ vehemently support a sex abuse story that is so without foundation?  Why did the HG story spread like wildfire throughout the A/M when there was no evidence to support it?  Why do trolls always comment under Hollie Greig videos and on all Hollie Greig related forums, blogs … all social media … in vigorous defence of the HG story?  Why do almost all in the A/M refuse to expose the shills?  [Very few will even discuss the problem of the controlled opposition and even fewer will name names.  Notice how Zen names only some famous {safe} C/O agents.   We can conclude from this that anyone in the A/M who shies away from the subject of shills is almost certainly a shill him/herself and if that person is also a supporter of the HG story or refuses to expose it as a hoax, then there is no doubt that said person is a shill.]  In a nutshell we should be asking who are the real masterminds behind the HG story and why?  

I am convinced that if we ever find the answer to that, humanity will have taken a colossal leap forward towards freedom.  In the meantime the real truth soldiers have a real task ahead – to make sure the ruling elite do not take away our freedom of speech and especially via the use of the WWW. 

A final note on the Secret Societies.  It is widely believed that one of the reasons JFK was murdered was because of a speech, part of which is here: “The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.”

See these links for more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnM063ed5Rw 

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/spingola 

http://www.overlordsofchaos.com/html/secret_societies__nature_and_f.html 

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/nv2.htm 

http://danieltowsey.wordpress.com/category/beware-of-internet-reverse-psychology-operations/

As for being a ‘Holocaust Denier’, as you rightly say Greg, that too is totally irrelevant to the topic.  But since it is mentioned, I suggest people do their own research on that.  There are some good links about 1/2 way down this page  http://www.sharonkilby.co.uk/site/LYING_FOR_A_LIVING.php 

 

History and Purpose of the Freemasons and other Secret Societies

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/masons.htm#History and Purpose of the Freemasons and otherSecret Societies

The first Grand Lodge of Freemasonry was founded in England in 1717 – twenty-three years after the founding of the Bank of England which had a secret court of directors. The creation of this lodge is a milestone in the transformation of what was a trade guild into a secret society. The Rothschild family became allied with Freemasonry in the late 1700’s.   By co-operating with secret societies they were able to expand their banking operations from Germany, networking the political contacts of Freemasonry, which was already well established throughout the continent.   Freemasonry, on the other hand, needed money to finance its efforts to build a New World Order, and the Rothschilds would be able to provide such funds.

Proceedings of the U.S. Anti-Masonic Convention (1830 p. 33), declare Freemasonry was instituted, ‘to dupe the simple for the benefit of the crafty’.   Freemasons are intensely focused on maintaining secrecy and will retaliate against those who violate their oaths or transgress against brother Masons. The legend of Hiram Abiff, the Masonic Christ figure, describes how Hiram was killed while keeping a Masonic secret. His brother Freemasons killed Hiram’s assailants and raised Hiram from the grave. Freemasons are encouraged to model themselves after Hiram and hold their Masonic secrets. If they remain true to their oaths, like Hiram, they should expect to be avenged for such attacks and rewarded for their fidelity to the brotherhood. While cases exist suggesting the murder of opponents of Freemasonry, Masonic rituals state that ‘the more effective penalty for doing anything displeasing to Masonry is to be shunned by the entire Brotherhood, a penalty sufficient to bring a man to ruin, the more certainly so as Freemasonry has expanded into every profession and every branch of society’ (Stephan Knight, The Brotherhood (1984) p. 31).

Like other secret societies, the Freemasons have their own written constitutions. In the Scottish Rite petition for admission to the mysteries, question number 26 asks: ‘Do you promise, upon your honor, to strictly adhere to and be governed by the Constitution and Laws of the Grand Lodge of Texas and by the By-Laws of this Lodge?’ Question number 29 asks: ‘Do you seriously declare, upon your honor, that you will cheerfully conform to the ancient established usages and customs of Masonry?’

Edmona Ronayue described the requirement of obedience to all laws and edicts: ‘First, the candidate is made to swear eternal obedience to all Masonic laws and edicts, and without having the slightest knowledge of any one of them; then the law peremptorily excluding the name of Christ is submitted for his acceptance, and, lastly, in perfect harmony with the requirements of his Masonic obligation, a blind implicit unwavering obedience to this law is demanded of him whether right or wrong’ (The Master’s Carpet (1879).

‘It is even claimed that: The teachings of Freemasonry . . . are summarily this: Obey Masonic law, and live’ (Rev. C.G. Finney, The Character, Claims and Practical Workings of Freemasonry (1869) p.2130.

‘It has been said: Those who over-step the Constitution of the US government by joining secret societies and take their judicial oaths to secretly uphold their members in so far as they can when their design and purposes conflict with our Constitutions and laws should be treated as traitors of the government and deprived of their franchise as citizens’ (William Edward Smith, Christianity and Secret Societies, (1936) 25).

While not overtly encouraged to participate in criminal activity, Freemasons were sworn to protect their brother Freemasons should they engage in immoral or criminal conduct. The Royal Arch Mason swore, ‘I will aid and assist a companion Royal Arch Mason, when engaged in any difficulty, and espouse his cause, so far as to extricate him from the same, if in my power, whether he be right or wrong . . . A companion Royal Arch Mason’s secrets, given me in charge as such, and I knowing him to be such, shall remain as secure and inviolable, in my breast as in his own, murder and treason not excepted, etc.’ (The Address of the U.S. Anti-Masonic Convention (1830) p. 9).

In summary, according to Freemasonry’s critics, Freemasonry is a brotherhood or more aptly a cult which mandates secrecy and obedience within its ranks, affords protection and advancement of the interests of its members, punishes its enemies and turns a blind eye to criminal behavior committed by its members against non-members. Freemasonry provides a value system and an organizational structure which works to put brother Freemasons in positions of power in all organizations and can be used by its members for the most immoral and illegal purposes. Its foundation appears to rest upon the willingness of its members to selfishly exchange their ethics for personal advantage. Its strength appears to lie in a pervasive presence, unseen by those outside the brotherhood, working in concert to protect and expand their wealth and power.

If we believe the early 19th century critics of Freemasonry, how would we expect Freemasons to respond to a Kennedy assassination conspiracy involving brother Freemasons? Most Freemasons might never be aware of the conspiracy and could respond according to their individual feelings.   If they were made aware of a Masonic link, Royal Arch Freemasons would be bound by their oaths to maintain their brothers’ secrets, ‘murder and treason not excepted’ and warn their brothers of any threat of exposure. Royal Arch Freemasons could be expected to defend their brother Freemasons and support any cover-up of the conspiracy. Royal Arch Freemasons would use all the tools available to them to frustrate, confuse and discredit anyone to challenge their story. Literally millions of American Freemasons of all ranks could be called upon, as needed and with few questions, to quietly work to remove any threat to the assassins and their control of the government. Those Freemasons who were called upon to help would keep their Masonic secrets and could expect to be rewarded for their fidelity to Freemasonry. Any Freemasons who violated their Masonic confidences would invite the wrath of the brotherhood.

As a student, Weishaupt had studied the Greek mystics: ‘While an undergraduate Weishaupt studied the ancient pagan religions and was familiar with the Eleusinian mysteries and the theories of the Greek mystic Pythagorus. As a student he drafted the constitution for a secret society modelled on the pagan mystery schools but it was not until he was initiated into Freemasonry that Weishaupt’s plan for the ultimate secret society was spawned’ (Michael Howard, The Occult Conspiracy (1989) p. 61).

Weishaupt said: ‘Behold our secret. Remember that the end justifies the means, and that the wise ought to take all the means to do good which the wicked take to do evil’ (Ralph Epperson, The Unseen Hand (1985) p. 81).

His philosophy has been continued: ‘To summarize: The Communist code of ethics is based upon the principle that the ends of revolution justify any means, no matter how lawless, violent, dishonest, or indecent from the standpoint of accepted American standards of morality’ (House Report No. 2, 76th Congress, 1st Session 26-29).

‘No morality seemed to be a key foundation for the scheme. The group was founded on the premise that the end justifies the means and that the good of the Order justifies calumnies, poisoning, murders, perjuries, treasons, rebellions and all that men call crime’ (Nesta H. Webster, World Revolution, p. 297).

Disbelief remains as the single biggest factor working in Freemasonry’s favor. Decent folk find it incomprehensible that there could be individuals so evil as to actually try to take control of the world on behalf of Lucifer. In Freemasonry everything has a double-meaning. Thus the candidate is practicing the occult throughout his degree work without knowing it. False interpretations are given to him to prevent him from suspecting the Craft to be anything less than ‘on the square’. Another factor is that it rarely, if ever, does anything covert under its own name. In order to advance its agenda it establishes other organizations, to which it gives special assignments.

Jesus Christ was recognized to novices as the Grand Master and ‘if Christ exhorted his disciples to despise riches it was in order to prepare the world for the community of goods that should do away with property’ (ibid p. 12).

Later, at the grade of Priest, the initiate was told that ‘the pretended religion of Christ was nothing else than the work of priests, of imposture and of tyranny’ (ibid p. 13).

‘The success of socialism seems tied directly to eliminating religion’ (William Riley Halstead, Civil and Religious Forces (1890) p. 165-166).

Weishaupt, like Lenin and Marx, early publicly proclaimed that the State would wither away. In private the Illuminati elite believed ‘that the average man was too stupid to govern himself and that a self-appointed inner-circle or Illuminati would secretly rule’  (Robert Henry Goldsborough, Lines of Credit: Ropes of Bondage – 1989).

The United States of America was a republic. However, the secret destiny of America was the accomplishment of a democratic form of government that illegally usurped the republic. When it was first settled, the purpose was to all for a new way of life ‘free from the religious intolerance and political despotism that held Europe in its clutches’ (Manly P. Hall, The Secret Destiny of America (1958) p. 129).

The Philadelphia convention adjourned after five months of secret sessions. Madison’s Journal of the Federal Convention was not published until 1840 – after everyone who was at the 1787 Convention had died (Richard B. Morris, The Constitution (1985) p. 10). As originally drafted in the secret proceedings, the 1787 U.S. Constitution left out a public bill of rights altogether.

Until the 1820’s, college education was generally narrow and theological in character. However, a rising tide of relatively liberal thought on campus led to a new, secular liberal arts orientation strongly supporting the era of material progress that was to transform the continent during the second half of the century.

What they would learn is that someone else told you what to think about, when to think about it, how long to think about it, when to stop thinking about it, when to think of something else, and someone else sets up the secrets.

‘The Carbonari secret society in Italy in the early 1820s was more than just a power in the land, and boasted branches and sub-societies as far afield as Poland, France and Germany’ (Arkon Daraul, Secret Societies (1961) p.100).

Their origin was claimed to be in Scotland where they took to charcoal-burning to avoid suspicion of ulterior motives. They set up their own three-branch government and obeyed only their own laws (Ibid p. 101). The object of the society was to set up a body of men subject to the orders of a central body and to take action even against established governments: From the earliest recorded period of its existence, it formed a state within a state (Ibid p. 103. The Degree of Grand Elect was conferred on a candidate who was thirty-three years and three months old (the age of Christ on the day of His Death) (Heckethorn, I, p. 163). It was revealed in the catechism that the object of the organization was political and that it aimed at the overthrow of all tyrants.

The oath was given:

‘I, a free citizen of Ausonia, swear before the Grand Master of the Universe, and the Grand Elect Good Cousin, to devote my whole life to the triumph of the principles of liberty, equality and progress, which are the soul of all the secret and public acts of Carbonarism. I promise that, if it be impossible to restore the reign of liberty without a struggle, I will fight to the death. I consent, should I prove false to my oath, to be slain by my Good Cousins Grand Elects; to be fastened to the cross in a lodge, naked, crowned with thorns; to have my belly torn open, the entrails and heart taken out and scattered to the winds. Such are our conditions; swear!’ The Seventh most secret degree (Principli Summo Patriarcho) revealed the real object of Carbonarism and that its aims were identical with those of the Illuminati . . . (Ibid p. 167). The candidate was sworn to destroy every government whether despotic or democratic (Ibid p. 168).

‘The Jesuit war on the Vatican was terminated by the Congress of Vienna and by the secret, 1822, Treaty of Verona‘ (Emanuel M. Josephson, The “Federal” Reserve Conspiracy and Rockefellers (1968) p. 4-5). The Jesuits were finally reinstated by Pope Pius VII in August, 1814.

In 1829 a secret society, modelled after the Carbonari, was formed to establish compulsory public education in the United States.

‘Karl Marx, a key communist propagandist, joined the highly secret Satanist Church’ (A. Ralph Epperson, The Unseen Hand (1985) p. 91).

‘In 1856 Mazzini initiated Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (1831-1891) into the Carbonari. She was also an initiate of the Order of the Druses. In 1866 she was fought under Garibaldi and was wounded at Mentana (Lady Queenborough, p. 530). Blavatsky wrote that: It is Spinoza . . . who furnishes perhaps the truest key to a portion of this unwritten secret. While Moses forbids graven images of Him whose name is not to be taken in vain, Spinoza goes further. He clearly infers that God must not be so much as described. Human language is totally unfit to give an idea of this Being who is altogether unique’  (Isis Unveiled (1877) p. 308).

‘Some Spinosists fall into a senseless sort of Skepticism, called Egotism, where every one fancies himself to be the only Being that exists. Madame Blavatsky said in a moment of frankness: What is one to do, when in order to rule men, it is necessary to deceive them? . . . For almost invariably the more simple, the more silly, and the more gross the phenomenon, the more likely it is to succeed’ [like the City of London’s 9/11 hoax] (Robert Keith Spenser, The Cult of the All-Seeing Eye (1964) p.48).

‘In 1871 Pike copyrighted his 861-page book, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry’ (Ralph Epperson, The Unseen Hand (1985) p. 223).

Albert Pike stated: ‘All true dogmatic religions come from the Kabbala and lead back to it; all that is scientific and great in the religious dream of all the illuminated such as Bachme, Swedenborg, St. Martin, and others similar, is borrowed from the Kabbala. All the Masonic associations owe their secrets and symbols to it’ (Morals and Dogma (1871) p. 744-745).

On January 22, 1870, Mazzini wrote to General Albert Pike about ‘a super rite, which will remain unknown, to which we will call those Masons of high degree which we shall select . . . Through this supreme rite, we will govern all Freemasonry which will become the one international center, the more powerful because its direction will be unknown’ (Des Griffin, Fourth Reich of the Rich (1989) p. 68; Lady Queenborough, pp. 208-209; Adriano Lemmi p. 97; John 18:20; Ephesians 5:11).

‘Albert Pike organized the New and Reformed Palladian Rite. Three supreme councils were established at Charleston, S.C., Rome, Italy, and Berlin, Germany’ (Griffin, p. 69).

‘Albert Pike took control of the Theosophical operations while Mazzini was in charge of the political operations’ (Ibid p. 68).

‘Pike was “Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry” while Mazzini was “Sovereign Chief of Political Action.” (William T. Still, New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies (1990) p. 123).

‘On September 12, 1874, a decree confirmed a treaty signed by Armand Levi for the Jewish B’nai B’rith. Albert Pike authorized Jewish Freemasons to form a secret organization (Sovereign Patriarchal Council) to function side-by-side with the ordinary lodges headquartered in Hamburg, Germany’ (Lady Queenborough, p. 288.).

Bernard Shaw noted that ‘Compulsory labour, with death as the final penalty, is the keystone of Socialism . . .’ and that opposition in a Socialist state would have to be an underground conspiracy working in secret ‘until it is strong enough for an open test of strength.’ In turn, ‘the ruling clique is required to protect itself with a gigantic spy service’ (Fahey, p. 98).

‘The Federal Reserve was created in December, 1913 when Woodrow Wilson signed the Glass-Owen Federal Reserve Act. That bill had been the product of cloak-and-dagger machinations by Wall Street financiers and their political mouthpieces, many of them in league with the City of London. Wall Streeter Frank A. Vanderlip, in his autobiography ‘From Farm Boy to Financier,’ narrates that the secret conference which planned the Federal Reserve was ‘as secret – indeed, as furtive – as any conspirator.’ Vanderlip was one of the insiders invited to the Jekyl Island Club on the coast of Georgia in the autumn of 1910 by the Senator Nelson Aldrich, the father-in-law of John D. Rockefeller Jr. Aldrich also invited Henry Davison of J.P. Morgan & Co., and Benjamin Strong, the future Governor of the New York Federal Reserve Bank. Also on hand was Paul Warburg of the notorious international banking family, descended from the Del Banco family of Venice. As Vanderlip recounted, ‘We were instructed to come one at a time and as unobtrusively as possible to the railway terminal on the New Jersey littoral of the Hudson, where Senator Aldrich’s private car would be in readiness, attached to the rear end of a train for the South’.

In more recent times, Bill Moyers took a trip around the world with David Rockefeller. Later he wrote in 1990: ‘Secrecy is the freedom zealots dream of: no watchman to check the door, no accountant to check the books, no judge to check the law. The secret government has no constitution. The rules it follows are the rules it makes up’ (Bill Moyers, The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis (1990) p. 7).

Throughout history Jews have been the soul of every anti-Christian movement. There has not been a single important program or organization aimed at the overthrow of the Church in which they cannot be found lurking.

Thus, Jews were the main opposition to spreading the Faith at the time of the Apostles. They were the ones who urged Nero to begin his persecution of Christians. They started Gnosticism, the first great heresy that threatened to destroy the Church by confusing her doctrine.   They have provided the inspiration and encouragement for almost every other heresy, from Arianism and Trinitarianism in the fourth century, to impersonating Protestantism in the sixteenth (chiefly by making always available their Talmud and Cabala, the sources and reservoirs of all anti-Christian blasphemy and filth, as is also most evident in the nature of the criminal behaviour and perverse attitudes plaguing society today). And in our own day, they conceived, brought into being, and provided the membership for Communism.

The Roman Catholic FALSE church however, although a child of apostate Jewry, has at certain periods in her history, and in the strongest possible terms, tried to warn and protect her children against these “adversaries of all men”, as Saint Paul called them. Through the decrees of her Popes and Councils she has obliged the Jews to live in ghettos, forbidden them to have Christian servants or to hold public office, required them to wear orange hats so as to be easily recognized and avoided. At one time or other, the Jews have been banished from almost every country in Europe – and not by merciless tyrants but by great so-called Christian rulers, like Saint Henry II of Germany and Louis IX of France.

Not until the eighteenth century, when the Freemasons began to take over the governments of Europe, did the Jews really come into their own. Before that they had been obliged to work mostly underground, exerting their influence in hidden, subtle ways. But from this time on they worked in the open.

Being formed for the purpose of combating Christ and His Church, the Masons shrewdly realized that to wage this war effectively they must enlist the aid of that people who had always been the backbone of the anti-Christian army. Accordingly, the Mason’s terminology, their secret rituals, their philosophy, were all taken over from the Jews. But the Masons’ greatest stroke was to make use, not merely of these perfidious traditions, but of the vital, raging Jewish people themselves. As the Masons took over the nations of Europe, the Jews were released from the ghettos in which they had been for centuries confined, and turned out on society.

Thus was established the great alliance in the empire of Satan: the Masons and the Jews; the Masons with their power, controlling government and business, plotting and planning at the highest levels; the Jews with their influence, controlling the press and entertainment, insinuating their nervous, impure, infidel values into all society, and corrupting it to the core.

These two, which in every other respect are poles apart, have joined together for one reason: the destruction of the Church. And every Masonic-Jewish scheme has this end in view. Thus, their advocacy of Internationalism is partly due to the fact that they have loyalty to no country, but mainly it is an attempt to fight the Church on a scale as large, as catholic, as the Church is herself.

But by the Grace of God, His true Church is a “little Flock”, and not the organized rabble of Rome and her once-Protestant harlot daughters. Very few people in this world have ever met a Christian – in the sense of a born-again saint. And no-one in any of the secret societies or man-made religious systems would know what to look for, what the faith is, or how to gauge It.

The Masons’ supreme, ultimate objective, so they mysteriously declare, is to rebuild the Temple of Jerusalem. This is of course, an objective which the Jews share. And though it may sound innocent, it is, in its implications, terrifying.

The Temple of Jerusalem is the traditional center of Jewish worship, which was destroyed in 70 A.D. by the Romans, in fulfillment of Our Lord’s prophecy that“there shall not be left a stone upon a stone.” The establishment of the state of Israel gives the Masons and the Jews their first opportunity to try and achieve their objective of rebuilding this Temple.

However, when they do so there will not be one Gentile Christian on earth to see it.

For the Temple was destroyed as a stark, unmistakable sign of God’s wrath upon the Jews. It will be rebuilt, the Bible tells us so. But its reconstruction will NOT be of the Lord, for the mystic Body of Christ, the Church, is His Temple. Then the Antichrist will appear. He will succeed in all the Masons and Jews have determined. He will rebuild a Temple in Jerusalem, where he will sit as if he were God, and FORCE the mark of the beast. masons.htm

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