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MATT QUINN – By His Daughter Sinead

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/04/2017

The Truth About MATT QUINN – By His Daughter Sinead

This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE CLICK HERE

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eMail: Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com

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Hi,

I appreciate one should feel sorry for someone like Matt Quinn with his vitriolic obsessions buty if one has ever dipped into the sewer that passes for his blog I for one find it impossible.

It is clear the sad sick little man with his violent and random colour changes and gratuitous obscene language, used presumably to make him seem grown up in attitude but showing him as an ignorant and disturbed inadequate. His ability to distort and fantasise is astonishing as he consistently presents 2+2 as being at least 5 and more often than not more like qo times removed from reality or facvt – I see no point in presenting the corrections and facts to prove them awere one to fisk his rants as he would then be distorting yet more material to feed his sick and sickening posturing.

Suffice to say it is clear that he has lost his temper and made a complete fool of himself in his anger at being exposed and his fantasising about me is provably nonsense but frankly who cares what the silly little inadequate says or thinks! I have never cared what the ill informed and unstable have to say about me as I fortunately do not live in their world of gutter sweepings and I am in the fortunate position that those who know me know the truth and those who don’t, frankly what do I care what they think.

So back to dealing with the facts and exposing the truth:

Personally I have found Matt Quinn to be a toxic, dishonest, utterly corrupt and vituperative low life, with the reputation that if you locked him in a cupboard he would pick a fight with the shelves and distort any issue to support his sad sick self opinion and vicious self obsessed ego.

However he has proved to any but the foolish and the gullible to be a sad figure of self pity and vicious aggression willing to publish any libel aware that his best defence, were he brought to court, would be mental health – showing his long track record of difficulty with anger management and fantasy.

Matt Quinn’s sole contribution to the sad stories promoted by Anne McKay (nee Greig) and her fantasies readily latched onto by Robert Green, George McKendrick, Belinda McKenzie and the band of sick and delusional parasites who latched onto the stories about Holly Greig was that like the other paedophile tourist and sexually depraved voyeurs he would seem to have been there for his own self agrandisement and pleasure in finding others to attack to bolster his personal inadequacies and failures. He may equally likely be obsessed as a means to feed some sick interest in children, paedophelia and abuse of women, one can but speculate – but it is clear from his blog and other articles he is a very disturbed individual.

See also: CLICK HERE  also HERE & also try entering Matt Quinn in the search box at the top of the Right Sidebar on this page, for more facts about the odious fellow.

Perhaps one of the best ways to consider this odious little inadequate is to read his daughter’s opinion of him.

WHO THE HELL IS RATHNEY
– the truth about Matt Francis Quinn

You will note that the original site Matt Quinn’s daughter posted on has been removed by Google, there have I gather been claims made that the site was based on forged documents from the Scottish National Archive! I believe sucha an allegation to be profoundly unlikely.

You will find a copy of that original site at:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170412003049/http://kerryannlogan.blogspot.com/2016/05/who-hell-is-rathney-truth-about-matt.html#!https://kerryannlogan.blogspot.com/2016/05/who-hell-is-rathney-truth-about-matt.html

You will also find the details at:

https://holliegreigetc.wordpress.com/2016/05/16/the-truth-about-matt-quinn-by-his-daughter-kerryann-logan/

 

It has been confirmed to me by eMail from Matt Quinn’s daughter Sinead that she was the author of the text in this blog and thanked me for republishing the facts, unaltered – however she has asked me to remove the eMail copy of the birth certificate that was sent to me, confirming it was hers but asking for it not to be displayed.

The birth certificate was removed at 13:35hrs. 04-Jun-2016, as requested by her.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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Hollie Greig Justice Site Publishes Yet More Annonymous Lies …

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/03/2017

Hollie Greig Justice Site Publishes Yet More Annonymous Lies …

This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE CLICK HERE

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www.InfoWebSite.UK

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Hi,

I had my attention drawn to this posting on the web blog that claims to campaign for Justice for Hollie Greig – a site I very rarely visit as it has so often lied and deliberately misled people and has provided a platform for some of Britain’s most notable lowlifes and associates elsewhere.

It is also a site that clearly revels in the sordid and perverse, perversion and unpleasant – a site best suited to the perverted who wish to read about every form of depravity mankind stoops to, wherever in the world or however irrelevant to the criminality of Kate & Gerry McCann, which I have clearly enumerated and explained why I believe they should be prosecuted.

It is notable that this perverted site harbours the postings of those who post under false names and in the manner of voyeurs and those deriving vicarious pleasure from reading details of the most sordid of perversions and behaviour.

I avoid such sites as they are unpleasant and all too often inaccurately or outright sensational and destructive lies. Yet again it seems they have chosen to publish annonymous comments without the slightest effort to check their facts in the most amateur and irresponsible manner viz:

Clearly the featured photo is not me, all that we have in common is grey hair and glasses – a situation amongst most men of a ‘certain age’, even the grey colour of hair and eye colour have no similarity!

As ever the site is 100% wrong!

I doubt they will publish a correction or appology as such false stories suit their agenda of dishonesty.

Unfortunately I was not available to correct their lies sooner but at the time I was in hospital having yet another operation!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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  • I do NOT believe in GODS singular or plural, Bronze Age or Modern
  • I value the NHS as a HEALTH SERVICE NOT a Lifestyle support
  • I believe in a DEATH PENALTY for serial or GBH rape.
  • I believe in a DEATH PENALTY for serial, terrorist, mass or for pleasure murder.
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The Truth About MATT QUINN – By His Daughter Sinead

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/05/2016

The Truth About MATT QUINN – By His Daughter Sinead

This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE CLICK HERE

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Posted by:
Greg Lance – Watkins
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eMail: Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com

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Hi,

I appreciate one should feel sorry for someone like Matt Quinn with his vitriolic obsessions buty if one has ever dipped into the sewer that passes for his blog I for one find it impossible.

It is clear the sad sick little man with his violent and random colour changes and gratuitous obscene language, used presumably to make him seem grown up in attitude but showing him as an ignorant and disturbed inadequate. His ability to distort and fantasise is astonishing as he consistently presents 2+2 as being at least 5 and more often than not more like qo times removed from reality or facvt – I see no point in presenting the corrections and facts to prove them awere one to fisk his rants as he would then be distorting yet more material to feed his sick and sickening posturing.

Suffice to say it is clear that he has lost his temper and made a complete fool of himself in his anger at being exposed and his fantasising about me is provably nonsense but frankly who cares what the silly little inadequate says or thinks! I have never cared what the ill informed and unstable have to say about me as I fortunately do not live in their world of gutter sweepings and I am in the fortunate position that those who know me know the truth and those who don’t, frankly what do I care what they think.

So back to dealing with the facts and exposing the truth:

Personally I have found Matt Quinn to be a toxic, dishonest, utterly corrupt and vituperative low life, with the reputation that if you locked him in a cupboard he would pick a fight with the shelves and distort any issue to support his sad sick self opinion and vicious self obsessed ego.

However he has proved to any but the foolish and the gullible to be a sad figure of self pity and vicious aggression willing to publish any libel aware that his best defence, were he brought to court, would be mental health – showing his long track record of difficulty with anger management and fantasy.

Matt Quinn’s sole contribution to the sad stories promoted by Anne McKay (nee Greig) and her fantasies readily latched onto by Robert Green, George McKendrick, Belinda McKenzie and the band of sick and delusional parasites who latched onto the stories about Holly Greig was that like the other paedophile tourist and sexually depraved voyeurs he would seem to have been there for his own self agrandisement and pleasure in finding others to attack to bolster his personal inadequacies and failures. He may equally likely be obsessed as a means to feed some sick interest in children, paedophelia and abuse of women, one can but speculate – but it is clear from his blog and other articles he is a very disturbed individual.

See also: CLICK HERE  also HERE & also try entering Matt Quinn in the search box at the top of the Right Sidebar on this page, for more facts about the odious fellow.

Perhaps one of the best ways to consider this odious little inadequate is to read his daughter’s opinion of him.

WHO THE HELL IS RATHNEY
– the truth about Matt Francis Quinn

 

It has been confirmed to me by eMail from Matt Quinn’s daughter Sinead that she was the author of the text in this blog and thanked me for republishing the facts, unaltered – however she has asked me to remove the eMail copy of the birth certificate that was sent to me, confirming it was hers but asking for it not to be displayed.

The birth certificate was removed at 13:35hrs. 04-Jun-2016, as requested.

 

As a man who actually ditched his own daughter when she was a baby, I suppose he is well acquainted with the damage that a ‘dead beat dad’ can do.”

 

                                         (‘The doting dad’)

Since 2010 I have been aware that detailed information regarding the whereabouts of my biological father existed online. I remember being in 5th or 6th year at school, aged 16 or 17 and opening the evening times one day to see him pictured standing in front of the now historic ‘red road Flats’, with an article below talking of his time spent there, how he started his businesses from those very flats. His ‘rags to riches’ story if you like.

(Aged 1-2)

My parents split when I was one. After a painfully abusive and mentally destructive nine-year marriage to my father. The story goes that my mother returned home one night from visiting relatives in Glasgow, to be confronted by my paternal father and his ‘Mistress’ Allegedly named ‘Linda’.  My mother had arrived home early, and naturally my  father would not have expected the mother of his one-year old baby girl to return to her marital home a mere 24 hours early. How dare she. He left, or more so was told to leave and his little piece of blonde ambition he had been keeping on the side followed.
After that night a two year divorce/custodial battle began, with my father filing for divorce based on ‘Intellectual differences’  – Hardly appropriate in my opinion based on the idiotic babble I’ve recently found online penned by the man himself. At aged two-ish, After a long and winded lawyer’s letter spat, my father decided that the commute from Livingstone where he resided with his mother, to Stevenston in Ayrshire (Approx. 2 hours away) apparently was too much for him to travel. Now forgive me for being naïve, But I would have thought any father fighting for the right to their child would be willing to make that journey if they were looking to seek sole custody of their baby. Apparently not. Thus resulting in him never to be seen by myself in person ever again.

I grew up, and he was never really a thought in my mind, My mother is, was and always will be a complete champion. We lived alone in our flat in Stevenston and it was there with her that I developed my love for 90’s music. The fondest memory I have of being there was on a Sunday, at aged 4 I would sit on the stool in the kitchen, watching my mum cook us a roast beef dinner, singing along to the likes of Oasis, Phil Collins and of course the Spice Girls. I never remember any of the darkness my mother suffered from. She never let negativity touch me.

Just before my 5th birthday, A ray of light came into our life. My mother became involved with my ‘Step-father’, and I use the term ‘step’ only for technical purposes. He has been forever my best friend, since the age of Five I was brought into a family, with a gran, and ten cousins, four uncles and aunts, and many more to follow. I took on his name at the age of 8 when he married my mum, and have always regarded him as my daddy.  He’s been there for me through the break-up of the Spice Girls, My first hangover, He bought me my first car, and this year will walk me down the aisle on my wedding day.

(AGED 4 – My Christening day)

And so this brings me back to when I was 17, Finding out after years of hearing bits and pieces about him, I finally have a clear image printed in a national paper, next to an article quoting this man reflecting on his time spent in the famous ‘Red Road’. It makes a good read, and should be available in all good toilets as optional toilet paper since half of the actual story is missing. My father in fact lived with my mother in the flat, and did in fact start ‘Their’ business together from those very bricks. She would take phone calls, and he would verbally abuse her when she incorrectly noted down information. The photo’s I have, show them happy, Living together with their black and white cats, it baffles me that it went so sour. 
Now I must make it clear that my mother has never ever denied her love for my biological sperm donor. She was besotted, and when they finally split in 1993/94 she was genuinely heart broken. She always had her suspicions that he was lying to her. Strange phone calls from a woman claiming to be one of his classmates, His late returns from college, because he was busy ‘filming’ all added to his case for ‘Husband of the year’.  I could go on, however I have respect for my mother, and as much as the truth outed would be fabulous for me. I can live with knowing what I know.

Last week I made a discovery, I discovered that my paternal father has not only re-produced myself. He actually has another 20 year old daughter, and a ‘wife’ of 23 years. Now maths was never my strongest subject, Geography and Modern Studies were more my kind of thing, However I am 24 this year… My parents were not legally divorced until 94/95 and something doesn’t quite add up right? In addition to this I also read online that the sperm donor has re-produced prior to his marriage to my mother…. A Chinese baby, born some 9 years before me, 6 months premature – Like me. (I was born at 6 months, and my mother suffered from preeclampsia having me, and had to give birth via emergency C section) The baby died at 6 days old, and had little more than a 15% chance of survival, Soon after this my father’s first partner was fatally killed in a road accident, which I would never wish on anyone and hope to god no one had to endure the pain of this horrendous loss, however, meeting my mother in 1983/1984, The very SAME year you lost your future wife and baby, you would expect this type of information would be disclosed to your wife of 9 years and future mother of your baby….
You can appreciate my further disappointment in the biological sperm donor, when I read on to see him ‘blogging’ about how thankful he is, that his at this point, 19 year old daughter, has been brought up in a safe, secure loving home, and that he has been able to ‘protect’ her.
I ask you this Matt, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY GOD DAMN PROTECTION!?

(FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL)

When you decided that a two hour commute was too much to see your baby daughter? When you sat every 14th of November knowing that it was my birthday, and never bothered to even send a wish in my direction, When you tortured my mother and had he believe she was a fool? When you stated in your lawyer’s letters to her that she would be ‘Incapable of educating me’. Let me tell YOU something, 6 Scottish highers later, and I did okay!!

I have never once longed for your existence, but the fact you have kept a sibling from me, and have potentially produced lie after lie regarding my own existence as a human being, proves exactly what type of man you are. To quote “Matt Quinn is a liar and a fantasist” – I could never confirm or deny if these allegations and things written ARE true, but you can bet your arse I’ve made my own mind up.

For my little sister Amanda, I hope you are smart and beautiful. I hope one day you know you have a big sister who would have loved you, who would have shared her sweets and played football with you in the park. I would have had you as a bridesmaid at my wedding, and would have taught you how to drive.

To ‘Linda’ I hope you never had to endure what my mother did.

And to you, Matt, I hope you know you missed a lot, I’ve grown to be a pretty successful young woman. I own my house, hold a position of authority in the motor trade, and will be getting married this year. My favourite subject as school was Geography, I have a higher in Art and Design, I am a good artist and I studied Social and economic studies at college. My favourite food is chicken. I passed my driving test first time with no minors when I was 17, when I was 6 I thought Phil Collins was my real dad… because he was bald. I have long dark curly hair and one of my favourite songs is ‘Brown eyed girl’ because my mum used to sing it to me when I was little. I grew to be the person I am because of my mother and father. My mother taught me never to hate you, she never once made herself out to be an arch angel, but she told me the truth and let me make my own mind up. She taught me how to love music, and has given me a life beyond my wildest dreams. I have wanted for nothing. My REAL daddy, taught me how to fit brakes to my car, showed me how to spray paint a motorbike, and teaches me every single god damn day the real meaning of unconditional love.

https://holliegreigetc.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/67e4e-sinead2bfb.jpg?w=462&h=554
(AGED 23 – Me Today)

Posted Yesterday by Kerryann Logan

Presumably Kerryann Logan is a friend of Matt Quinn’s daughter Sinead.

Interestingly I too have a daughter from a misguided marriage which failed almost 50 years ago – a daughter my wife chose to concieve, after we had agreed to part company, yet remained together out of expediency.

We involved no other parties as we were neither of us involved with other partners either seriously or casually when we separated. I had no intention of having a push me pull you daughter and stated that I was more than happy to bring up the child or cede the responsibility to my wife – however I stated that whoever had custody the other party would not interfere and would have no contact until the child was 18.

When our daughter was 18 she chose to contact me via my parents, who as grandparents had selected to remain available to my ex wife and daughter should they wish. As a result we met a few times but it was clear we had no link beyond genetics and have had no further contact. After my wife and I parted we built our own lives separately and the man she chose to be with did a sound job of acting as father to our daughter and my wife and he are, to the best of my knowledge, still happily enjoying their old age, in the sunshine, together – I wish them all well with their lives.

Unlike Matt Quinn I did not have a domestic sibling as with the young girl his mother effectively adopted, after Matt Quinn’s father had left her – the Chinese girl Matt Quinn made pregnant, I understand.

Unlike Matt Quinn I did not betray my wife by consorting with other women until we were apart.

I do not castigate Matt Quinn for his failed marriage but I find his determination to aggressively and dishonestly seek to exploit the unfortunate failures of others. What a hypocrite this vile little man is!

An odious little man who will open any dustbin he finds to feed his fantasies – I am told he has even jumped, gratuitously, on the tragic murder of Jo Cox by a mentally deranged man to try to pretend I had some part in it – it seems unlikely he had ever heard of her before her death as, unlike me, he would seem to have no ongoing interest in politics and no track record of campaigning in that field.

That the odious little man tried to embroil me in one of his fantasies as in some way connected to her death is a measure of his dangerous instability!

This is the man I hear this is an individual who lived in the red road with Kerryanne’s mother for sometime, living adjacent to his brother in law, claiming grants from the government in her mothers name, to start various different companies! Hardly surprising I guess when one realises he had made his own mother’s adopted daughter pregnant! A fact he uses to try to gain sympathy as the child of this young girl was born premature and died.

This is the individual who can be traced on many sites on the internet, where his behaviour is almost exclusively bullying and abusive, picking fights with people who seek to chat on Forums and the like – clearly such unpleasant behaviour is and has been a part of his personna for many years, one never seems to see him interacting in a friendly manner and he seems to be bereft of both friends and supporters and clearly is incapable of normal behaviour.

I note also that he and his direct family seem to be well spread on social media and there is a sad lack of friendly & normal interaction to be found with anyone. Endlessly self justifying and plenty of TELLING people as he presents himself as some sort of erudite genius – probably as result of his exposure to students as a man amongst boys when he is so clearly a boy amongst men!

QUINN, Amanda Rathney 01 FACEBOOK

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QUINN, Linda Rathney 01 FACEBOOK

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QUINN, Frank 01 FACEBOOK

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QUINN, Frank 02 FACEBOOK

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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The Corrupt & Odious Bufoons @ the Self Styled HollieGreigJustice Blog!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/09/2015

The Corrupt & Odious Bufoons @ the Self Styled HollieGreigJustice Blog!
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This site was first posted on, on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of sexual abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others amongst their perverse cult following.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I unreservedly apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE at CLICK HERE

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Tuesday, 8 September 2015

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Tuesday, 11 February, 2003, 08:12 GMT

Father’s plea over Dunblane papers

Floral tribute

Floral tribute after Dunblane tragedy

The father of a child killed in the Dunblane tragedy has called for police information on the killer to be made public. Scotland’s most senior law officer has been urged to explain why documents on Thomas Hamilton were banned from publication for 100 years.

The Crown Office denied that they have been suppressed because they revealed links between the killer and a number of prominent Scots.
Charlie Clydesdale, whose daughter Victoria was killed, said an explanation should be given.

Charlie Clydesdale
I would really like to see what was in it

 

Charlie Clydesdale

And Scottish National Party MSP Michael Matheson wants the ban reconsidered in light of the new freedom of information legislation.
Forty-three-year-old Hamilton, broke into Dunblane Primary School on 13 March, 1996 and opened fire on a class in the gym, killing 16 children and a teacher.

‘Draconian act’
In addition to those killed, he injured 12 other children and two teachers before killing himself.
Mr Clydesdale questioned the length of the ban and described his family’s frustrations.
He said: “I’m not going to be around and my children aren’t going to be around.
“I would really like to see what was in it, but I’m surprised there was one and shocked there was such a length of time put on it.”

Michael Matheson MSP

Michael Matheson: “Secrecy order”

Mr Matheson said he has sought clarification from the Lord Advocate Colin Boyd QC.
The MSP told BBC Scotland: “I think it’s surprising that in this day and age we find ourselves with 100-year secrecy order being applied to a police report.
“Keeping in mind that Cabinet papers are only classified for 30 years, I want to find out what the legal status of this act is.
“And find out why such a draconian act has been carried out.”
The Crown Office dismissed allegations that information about Hamilton was being kept secret because it contained information about senior political figures in Scotland.

‘Avoid causing distress’
It said that some documents deemed sensitive were kept under a “75 year closure”.
However, the Scottish Office, the Crown Office and Lord Cullen, who led the inquiry into the Dunblane shootings, agreed that some information should be kept for 100 years.
“This was to ensure that information would not be made public during the lifetime of any of the children (or their siblings) identified in the documents,” said a Crown Office spokesman.
“There is no question of this action being taken to protect the identities or involvement of any public figures – the decision was made simply to protect the identities of the children involved, and to avoid causing them distress throughout their lives.
“The new Freedom of Information legislation is not relevant in this context,” the spokesman added.

COMMENT MADE:

It is unlikely the odious owners of the self styled, ill informed and frequently libelous HollieGreigJustice blog will publish my comment! Its insignificance and clearly unsustainable flights of fantasy are its greatest protection from prosecution for libel and slander in that no judge would consider it to be sufficiently accurate or credible to be considered a rational or sound source that might materially damage an individual of repute or sound standing – as shown by its utter failure to be taken seriously in its publishing of provable and identifiable lies and gratuitous defamation regarding myself – they are irrelevant, inaccurate and palpably implausible!

Hi,

when quoting a 12 year old article credibility would be greatly enhanced if accurate attribution was presented, as with this BBC article see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/2746773.stm

When much of the information given on this web site is febrile and unsupportable at best, and downright dishonest and gratuitously defamatory in many instances, it ill becomes the web owners to fail to attribute articles accurately when they come from normally accurate and informed sources known to the readers.

Unfortunately unattributed articles will be tarred with the same brush as when presented by the ‘fruit loops’ who all too often write their opinions and bitter fantasies for or are quoted as sources on this web site.

Thus the few nuggets of sound information are treated with the contempt this web site generally accrues amongst the informed and the discerning readers.

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The so-called “Hampstead Satanic Cult” should be a warning to the credulous

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/03/2015

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It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of sexual abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others amongst their perverse cult following.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I unreservedly apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE at CLICK HERE

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The so-called “Hampstead Satanic Cult” should be a warning to the credulous

March 24, 2015 Matthew Uncategorized

Lovers of paedophile and Satanist conspiracies have been having a wonderful time recently with their claims that a Satanist paedophile ring has been operating from Christ Church Church of England Primary School in Hampstead, a beautiful part of North London not far from where I used to live.

Christ Church Hampstead

Such scares blow up from time to time and they always turn out to be nonsense, or at least, if they contain a grain of truth, to be hugely exaggerated. However on this occasion I have paid more than passing attention because the school in question happens to be where two of my children learnt to read and write and where they spent seven exceptionally happy years.

I have had no involvement with the school since 2008, but the Head Teacher and many of the other teachers and staff, as well as the Parish priest, are the same now as they had been then.

When the previous Head Teacher left in 2007 there were some parents, myself included, who thought that her deputy, an inspirational teacher loved by children and staff alike ought to have got the job. The governors disagreed and the post went to an outsider who quickly proved to be a great success, while the former deputy was immediately snapped up to become Head of another Primary School. These things happen and the school continued to prosper under its new Head. It was, justifiably, hugely over-subscribed.

In September last year two children returned from a holiday with their mother, Ella Draper, and her boyfriend, Abraham Christie. She had been separated from their father, Ricky Dearman, for several years. She had alleged that he had been violent towards her, and had taken out a non-molestation injunction against him (such an injunction does not require proof of violence). For his part, Mr Dearman had had endless problems getting contact with the children and the contact dispute had drifted through seven different judges and nine court hearings with no resolution.

Ms Draper and Mr Christie returned from their holiday with video recordings on a mobile phone. In them the children claimed that they had been sexually abused by numerous people, including their father, other parents and virtually all the teachers and staff at Christ Church school.

The children were taken to the police who formally interviewed them (in what are known as “Achieving Best Evidence” or “ABE” interviews). They repeated the allegations which were wide-ranging, exceptionally serious and, to anyone not already steeped in the belief that cults of Death Eaters, Illuminati and Satanists are operating to prey on innocent children, ought to have been regarded as patently ridiculous.

The interviews were summarised by the Pauffley J, the High Court Judge who ruled last week on Barnet Council’s application to take the children into care:

“The children both describe killing and eating babies, drinking blood, being anally penetrated and being injected with drugs. They provide details of all the people who have been involved – all the teachers, parents of children at the school, social services. P says that the killing of babies is done with “cleavers”; the blood from the babies is poured into a “silver bowl” and she and her brother are “sold for £50 each every single day.” When P is asked what sex is, she initially says it’s when they are hit with a big plastic stick between their legs. Then she says “real sex is, like, they get plastic willies, they stick it in our bum, that’s what kind of sex they do.” When asked about the people involved in these activities, P suggests the police should “catch the whole school, catch all the staff there.” She adds a little later that “all the Hampstead schools do it.”

Q tells the police all about the plastic willies, who makes them and how his dad has the biggest because he’s “the boss of every single thing.” Q says that his bottom bleeds and that the last time this happened was on the last day of school when there was a big party. All the children, says Q, “do sex to him;” and at the end of the party his Dad “kills babies and eats the meat.” Like P, Q suggests that “all the teachers, (his) dad’s friends … and also the parents who are really mean” to him are involved.”

Even the school nurse (a delightful motherly woman who was always on hand in my day to apply an elastoplast to grazed knees) was said to be involved in giving sinister injections; and needless to say the Parish priest – a blameless High Church Anglican – was implicated. There were said to be secret rooms in the Church. Babies’ skulls featured in weird rituals. Even nearby businesses were part of the cult. A shoe repair shop in East Finchley apparently used baby skins to make shoes and a nearby MacDonalds was used for murders and body boiling.

Absurd and utterly incredible such allegations appear now, and so they should have appeared to the police at the time. Police were actually given an audio recording of the mother’s boyfriend “coaching” the children at a friend’s house. The friend appears to have been sufficiently concerned for the children’s welfare to have recorded what was happening on his mobile phone.

Unfortunately, in what seems to be the fashionable way, rather than approach the allegations sceptically the police decided to “believe the victims” and treated them, at least to start with, as true. The recording of the children being coached was simply put in a cupboard and, it seems, ignored. The police took the children on a drive around Hampstead so that they could point out venues where abuse had taken place.

More seriously they were also subjected to not one but two separate intimate anogenital examinations by Dr Deborah Hodes.

Dr Hodes is an extremely big shot in the world of child protection. According to the University College Hospital website:

“Deborah Hodes is a Consultant Community Paediatrician in the community trust for the London Borough of Camden and at University College London Hospitals. Deborah studied medicine at the Royal London Hospital and trained in paediatrics …. Deborah is a fellow of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health and has an active role there as a co-opted member of the Child Protection Standing Committee and writes for their publications. She represented the College on the Inquiry into Child Sexual Exploitation that reported in 2013 and now is the representative on the Children’s Commissioners Inquiry into child sexual abuse.

“Her key interest is in safeguarding children. She is Designated Doctor in Child Protection in Camden. She teaches both locally and nationally and at UCLH she leads the student teaching of community paediatrics. At UCLH her clinic includes the assessment of children with complex safeguarding presentations including historic sexual abuse.”

Big shot or not, Dr Hodes did not cover herself in glory in this case.

She found, or thought she found, signs of scars or healed fissures around the anuses of both children. On the second examination, a few days later, she found “reflex anal dilatation” in one child. It was supposed findings of RAD, of course, that led to the wrongful diagnosis of child abuse in large numbers of children in Cleveland in the 1980s. It remains a somewhat controversial diagnostic tool. The best that can be said for it is that it may be, but is not necessarily, an indication that sexual abuse has taken place.

A few days after this, both children withdrew their allegations at a further police interview.

A subsequent meeting with other doctors caused Hodes to significantly amend her findings in relation to the “fissures”. Far from being injuries, she conceded that (in the Judge’s words):

“previously confirmed fissures were said to be irregularities in the ruggae (folds, wrinkles or ridges) and their clinical significance was described as “possible normal variant.”

This concession seems to have been overlooked by those who continue to insist that the medical evidence “unequivocally” established that the children had been sexually abused.

Nevertheless, Dr Hodes concluded:

“… the extensive and detailed accounts given by both children, repeated to different professionals, contain details of sexual acts that such young children would need to have had some sort of direct experience (sic).”

Such an observation does not sound like a medical finding so much as a speculative guess; a sort of perverse wishful thinking. The idea that other people could have told the children about sexual acts, thereby allowing the children to repeat them, either didn’t occur to Dr Hodes, or if it did occur she dismissed it as inconceivable.

Even as recently as February 5th Dr Hodes was still treating the children’s allegations (which they themselves had long since admitted were false) as credible:

“the overall situation is such that it is my view that the allegations / accounts need to be taken very seriously despite the confusing picture.”

The children’s withdrawal of the allegations, to use her word, their “recantations” Joan of Arc: recanted her recantation

Joan of Arc: recanted her recantation

(a concept familiar to students of mediaeval heresy trials, when a timely recantation could sometimes save you, as it nearly saved Joan of Arc, from being burnt at the stake) were brushed aside, as though they merely served to confirm the truth of the original allegations:

“Until a study in 2007 it was mostly thought that recantation rates were related to the certainty with which child sexual abuse is substantiated and that retraction of true allegations is rare and that when retraction occurs the allegation is likely to be false. Lindsay et al found a recantation rate of 16.9% in 257 substantiated cases of CSA which had relied on formal interviews by police and social services.” (One could have added another “sic” there; the study to which she referred was actually by a Lindsay C. Malloy, although perhaps that was the judge’s slip).

She recommended:

“a series of more detailed observations and assessments over a longer period of time by a psychiatrist or psychotherapist with a particular interest and expertise in child maltreatment including sexual abuse.”

The Judge described this as “bemusing” because the children had already been subjected to detailed psychiatric examinations.

In fact, as Pauffley’s judgment makes clear, far from demonstrating that they had had any experience of sexual acts, the physical findings were completely inconclusive. The judge ruled that there had been no satanic cult or sexual abuse, and there was a simple though unpleasant reason why the children had claimed that there had been:

“The children’s false stories came about as the result of relentless emotional and psychological pressure as well as significant physical abuse. Torture is the most accurate way to describe what was done by Mr Christie in collaboration with Ms Draper.”

The whole affair is deeply disconcerting on a number of levels.

Lots of people believed, and still believe this farrago of nonsense

The chances that a Satanic paedophile ring of this sort could operate at a Primary School are nil. The idea that large numbers of children could be sodomised with dildos every Wednesday and made to watch babies being murdered, and that their parents would not notice something a little odd going or that they would approve of it is patently ridiculous. The idea that all the parents were themselves in on the Satanism is itself absurd.

At least 5 members of the teaching and administrative staff who were present in my day have been named as Satanic abusers. So I can speak from personal experience. Without exception all of them are gentle, caring people who have devoted themselves to the school and the welfare of the children who have attended it.

Yet according to the mother’s latest video the cult has been in existence “for decades.” Well, it hasn’t. If it had been, my children would have been victims of it, and I would have been a perpetrator. They weren’t and I wasn’t.

One wonders, even in a hugely over-subscribed Church of England Primary School, how were these Satanic parents selected?

Are they chosen from amongst the ranks of the Illuminati, known to each other through participation in secret Satanic Covens?

If so, something went wrong in my case. I am not an Illuminatus, whatever that may be. I have never attended a Satanic coven and would not know what to do in the unlikely eventuality of finding myself at one. Far from enjoying naked sacrificial rituals in candlelit catacombs, I shudder at the prospect of having to shake hands with my neighbour in a Church of England “Sign of the Peace.”

Instead, we filled in a form and explained that we wanted our children to be taught enough about religion to make up their own minds when they were old enough to do so. We had a walk around the school, a chat to the then Head Mistress and we spent a few weeks on a waiting list.

At no time were we asked about our willingness to participate in Satanic orgies, nor was our consent sought to allow the teachers to bugger our children with dildos. If it had been, that would have raised serious questions over whether this was the right school for us.

So it is bunkum.

Yet a relentless internet campaign has been waged, and continues to be waged, to represent a non-existent paedophile ring at an excellent Primary School as merely the tip of an iceberg of similar abuse elsewhere. The unfortunate children (whose videos remain easily available on “truther” websites), who were tortured into making the allegations against the father that they loved, are described as “whistleblowers,” and explicit links are made to similar unproven allegations so as to suggest by a process of attrition that there are paedophile rings in every corner of society.

It is an odd coincidence that one of Ms Draper’s two “McKenzie Friends” (a non lawyer who is permitted to sit in court and assist a litigant in person) is a woman called Belinda McKenzie, who for some years has been one of the leading proponents of the myth that the Downs Syndrome child Hollie Greig was abused by a Scottish establishment paedophile ring. (Anyone who wishes to know more about Hollie Greig would do well to read Anna Raccoon’s superb 2010 dissection of the hysteria). The other is the thoroughly malignant Sabine McNeill, who seems (like the mother) to have left the country in order to continue her campaign without fear of arrest for contempt of court or harassment.

Unfortunately it is not just a few isolated fruitcakes who believe this stuff. That a respected doctor like Dr Hodes could take it seriously, even after the children’s allegations had been both withdrawn and discredited, suggests a dangerous willingness to believe nonsense, amongst even those who ought to to be the most scientifically scrupulous. Likewise, the attitude of the police when the allegations were first made seems to have been to believe the children and to ignore the recordings of their coaching which would have cast huge doubt over the affair.

Real people are damaged

No babies have been murdered, no children have been raped and no virgin blood drunk. But the propagation of the myth of the Hampstead paedophile ring is still immensely cruel to real people. The videos of the children themselves are, in effect, videos of child abuse. The effect of constantly posting and reposting these videos will be to expose the children to ridicule and bullying by their peers, whilst the psychological effects of being constantly reminded of their false stories can only be guessed at.

Nor should the cruelty to adults be overlooked. Practically all the teaching and administrative staff at Christ Church School have been named as members of the Satanic cult, along with many parents. It may be possible to laugh off such nonsense, but when the same allegations are repeated again and again for months it surely cannot be easy to do so. Some people, as the judge noted, have received threatening messages, something that has been facilitated by websites that have listed personal contact details to assist bullies. Online reviews of the school advise people to keep their children away. Church goers are picketed on Sunday mornings. Teachers are urged to strip off to prove that they don’t have devil tattoos on their private parts, as though it is in any way reasonable that anyone should have to humiliate themselves at the behest of crazy troublemakers.

The trouble with these sorts of campaign is that they work.

Almost nobody has the time, even if they had the inclination, to get to the bottom of an internet scare story. To follow the twists and turns of the Hollie Greig hoax, for example, would, by now, require the patience of a saint and the research skills of a Doctor of Philosophy. The same, I fear, will soon be true of the Hampstead Satanic Cult hoax, and no doubt that that is the intention of those who are orchestrating it. Eventually the truth becomes so entangled in thickets of deception and confusion that it disappears altogether to be replaced, at best, by a vague feeling that “something must have gone wrong.” There are already cries of cover-up. Soon, perhaps, there will be calls for an inquiry.

It is impossible to follow the development of the Hampstead Cult story, or the Hollie Greig hoax, without seeing parallels with the allegations of a historical VIP paedophile and murder ring that are being enthusiastically peddled by Exaro News in association with the Sunday People.

Of course it is possible, in fact it is virtually inevitable, that during the 1970s and 1980s Parliament, the armed forces and the intelligence services contained paedophiles. No doubt some of them committed offences against children. It is also, of course, possible that some or all of these organisations contained murderers.

What is in issue here is something quite different: that MPs, Ministers and senior officials participated in organised child abuse and murder, and then colluded in covering it up.

It is impossible to say with complete certainty that there was no such VIP paedophile ring and no murders but there are warning signs that should make us extremely cautious.

First, the central allegation, that children were murdered at orgies attended by Leon Brittan, other politicians and “VIPs” is on its face lurid, bizarre and improbable. The idea that politicians and others would stand by and watch murders taking place; that the bodies could be disposed of and everyone who knew of the crime, including people who were horrified by it, would simply remain silent for 30 or 40 years is inherently unlikely.

Secondly, the story has grown in complexity and confusion as the months have passed. Allegations of cover-ups in high places abound; ex-police officers are said to have been ordered to drop sensitive investigations. Complaints have been made to the IPCC. Talk is of of “D notices” and the Official Secrets Act, dossiers and missing dossiers; links are asserted between Dolphin Square and the Elm Guest House. Hints are dropped that children’s homes in Wales and Jersey are involved. Thanks to Exaro News we even have a detailed account of one of the alleged murders at Dolphin Square (said to have taken place in front of someone known as “Nick”), and of another murder on a Suffolk Estate (said to have taken place in front of someone known as “Darren”), though we know next to nothing of those making the allegations and have no means of judging their veracity. We are invited simply to put our trust in Exaro. The stories are already so many and so varied that some will be tempted to conclude that there must be something in them. The assertion that wicked things have happened and that they have been deliberately covered up has been repeated for so long that it becomes ever harder for anyone to doubt. It is easy to see how in such an atmosphere the fairness of any criminal trial would be horribly compromised.

Thirdly, the police have let it be known that they are treating the allegations of murder as “credible and true” It is hard to know what this actually means. It is one thing to describe an allegation as “credible” (meaning it is “capable of belief”), quite another to say it is “true.”

To announce that a murder allegation is “true” before any real investigation has taken place and even before any body has been found, suggests a dangerous lack of professional scepticism: exactly the sort of mindset, in fact, that was criticised by Pauffley J in the Hampstead case. The police should be investigating “Nick” and “Darren’s” claims, not simply looking for evidence to support them. As a proper scientist looks for evidence to disprove a hypothesis, so a proper police investigation should be actively looking for evidence to undermine their claims. Perhaps this is happening, though the public pronouncements suggest otherwise.

Moreover, announcing that “Darren” and “Nick” are regarded as truthful has the effect of warning anyone who may have a contrary account to give, that the police will regard their accounts as untruthful. Why go to the police with information that might undermine Nick and Darrren if the police have already publicly announced that they will regard your account as “untruthful”?

Should any of these allegations ever come to trial, the declaration by a senior police officer that he thought the claims were true, even before the investigation had properly got under way would invite a comment along these lines from the defence advocate:

“Was this a fair and objective inquiry, members of the jury? Or did the police approach it with the blinkered preconception that Nick and Darren must be believed? Were they blind to the possibility that there was no VIP paedophile ring, no high level cover up and, in fact, no murders?

“And who was really running this investigation, the police or a sensationalist news organisation and its tabloid newspaper partner?”

Fourthly, the Exaro paedophile ring allegations, just like the Hampstead cult allegations, have caused, and will continue to cause, real distress to real people. Bandying around accusations and innuendoes of rape and murder is not something to be undertaken lightly, or because a news organisation is intent on whipping up a story. Yet we have had well-publicised police raids on the recently widowed Lady Brittan, the nonagenarian war hero Lord Bramall and the ex-MP Harvey Proctor. It is in the nature of these stories that even if no charges are ever brought, people will believe that these people are in some way implicated in rape, paedophilia and murder.

These are not trivial concerns.

To view the original of this article CLICK HERE

Anna Racoon – the first to comment – makes a very sound point, with her usual humour.
I do endorse her experience having been lied about, defamed and been the recipients of death threats by some of the most notable cranks around, including more plausible obsessive, liars, idiots and bullies like Matt Quinn, a desperate inadequate seeking attention with no sound grounds or evidence – just the maunderings of his poisoned mind, poor fool and to think he is supposedly involved in the education of young men and women!

How dare Anna Racoon or I expose the facts!

Our quoted ‘Barrister Blogger’ will likely be the recipient of the vitriolic and vituperative perverts’ rancour, promoting paedophelia and belief in its every day occurences, particularly amongst the establishment! Without their tin foil hat conspiracy theories where would they be!

Anna Raccoon
March 24, 2015 at 4:14 pm

“Well, it hasn’t. If it had been, my children would have been victims of it, and I would have been a perpetrator. They weren’t and I wasn’t.”

Well, you’ve done it now – trust me! Having personal experience of having been present, witnessed no abuse, nor been abused yourself is not ‘evidence’ – it is a sign that you are in De Nile or somewhere like that.

Soon there will be plethora of articles on the net saying that you aren’t a barrister at all, you’re a Trojan horse, and neigh in the middle of the night.

Having personal experience and knowing what you’re talking about means nothing compared to the beliefs of a dedicated ‘Truther’ hunched over its computer…..

At one point, the ‘Hollie Greig hoax’ boasted a Facebook following of 25,000. 24,998 of whom landed on my head when I first debunked the story,and as you quite rightly say, there are still a handful of people who believe it totally – in fact one of the first acts of ‘vengeance’ against the departed Jimmy Savile was to spray ‘Justice for Hollie Grieg’ on the side of his remote cottage halfway up the Scottish highlands……that’s a dedicated Truther for you, in the middle of the night, too!

Excellent article.

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Robert Green Faces Sentencing On A Plea Of Guilty Today

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/03/2015

Robert Green Faces Sentencing On A Plea Of Guilty Today.

This site was first posted on, on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of sexual abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others amongst their perverse cult following.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I unreservedly apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE at CLICK HERE

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Robert Green Faces Sentencing On A Plea Of Guilty Today

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Hi,

Please note that Robert Green is due to appear in Court today, to face sentencing, having earlier entered a plea of Guilty, in relation to matters relative to his criminal activities related to the Hollie Greig scam, that he and others have been involved in for some years.

IF an authoritative and plausible report of the proceedings comes to hand, from a reputable source, I will publish it on this blog.

 

This I understand to be the Court Listing:

Aberdeen Sheriff Court

Wednesday 4 March 2015

Data Published at 17:59 on 3 March 2015

Criminal

Civil – Ordinary Actions

Summary Cause

Small Claims

Criminal

Accused Details Court Ref No PF Ref No Court Room
37 George ROBERT GREEN SCS/2014-062414 AB14001741 Court 5

To view the Court Site & Day’s Roll CLICK HERE

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I gather that today Robert Green was found guilty, in line with his plea, and was sentenced to 250 days of Community Service, to be served during the next 2 years.

The truth of his claims regarding Hollie Greig and Roy Greig having been shown consistently to be unsound and untrue over the last 5 years it is to be hoped that he will now keep silent on the issue and or have the integrity to apologise for having misled so many gullible individuals on the subject.

There is absolutely zero sound, corroborated, plausible admissible evidence to show that Hollie Greig was ever sexually abused nor that her uncle Roy Greig died by any means other than his own hand.

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ANONYMOUS Threats & Cowardly Fantasies & Inaccuracy

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/03/2015

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This site was first posted on, on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of sexual abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others amongst their perverse cult following.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I unreservedly apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE at CLICK HERE

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ANONYMOUS Threats
& Cowardly Fantasies & Inaccuracy

________________________________________
From: Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net>
Sent: 03 March 2015 20:56
To: Greg Lance-Watkins
Subject: Doubt you’ll get to 70, Greggie

You ignoring my emails, coward? When you insulted Sarah Jane, you fucking
asshole, you crossed the line and signed your own one. We ignored your
lies about her husband, a great leader, whom she married only out of love,
something a diseased evil paedophilic rapist like yourself (and your
cowardly grandfather, if the rumours have substance) would know sod all
about. We have bided our time and now decided what to do, how to do it,
and who will do it to you. You are a mental gnat, a menace to decent
society, a fantasist and a waste of carbon. Even fuckwad Ukip wouldn’t
have you, and that takes some doing. Sandhurst and Cambridge, don’t make
me laugh. For an attention-junkie like you, some might think you are going
to enjoy the first part of your shafting. Oh no you won’t. All those about
whom you have obsessively lied and smeared, is it mere hundreds or now is
it now thousands, are going to give the Glos constab a truly monumental
list of suspects, and a lot of entertainment while going through it. Your
perversion and deceit will serve as your epitaph. Our fear is that justice
might be cheated by your ailments, put upon your head by Divine will, so
we are not going to delay. We’re not going to let The Royal Gwent steal
what is our just due. We know you won’t dare to put this on your website.
When it comes, remember what you wrote about an honourable lady and her
brave husband. Shake in fear, GLW, for the implied word was ‘warrant’.
Till the next time, loser.

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From: Greg Lance-Watkins

Hi,

little wonder you are too ashamed to put your name to your drivel!

Who do you claim is Sarah Jane?

Who do you believe to be her husband?

May I suggest you seek counseling as your vitriolic rant is clearly a product either of your twisted fantasies or you are singularly gullible!

The fantasies you have invented are childish in the extreme and clearly without foundation or evidence merely distortions and inventions of your sick mind – seek help before you end up harming yourself or others with your fantasies.

Not ONE of your distorted claims can you substantiate as without exception you are wrong and a liar.

You are seemingly endeavouring to compete with the sick minded liars and fantasists like the sad sick Matt Quinn and his little band of perverted liars.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.
http://GregLanceWatkins.com

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To deal item by item with your fantasies and cowardly threats:

You ignoring my emails, coward?

I rarely give credence to the maunderings of those too cowardly to put their name to their fantasies.

When you insulted Sarah Jane,

Who is Sarah Jane? I know of no such insult as you claim – nor any such individual!

you fucking asshole, you crossed the line and signed your own one.

To gratuitously use such language demeans any point you were trying to make and shows your threat to be even more cowardly.

We ignored your lies about her husband, a great leader, whom she married only out of love,

As I have absolutely no idea who you are talking about your comment is clearly some sick fantasy of yours.

something a diseased evil paedophilic rapist like yourself

What a silly comment as you can clearly provide absolutely no evidence to support your dishonest claim.

(and your cowardly grandfather, if the rumours have substance) would know sod all about.

Well that is below the belt as both my Grandfathers died over 40 years ago and one was a Police Sargeant through the war without any blemish on his character and the other was a decorated Old Contemptible in the Gloucestershire Regiment who led a long and honourable life. Your rumour invention mill is clearly demented!

We have bided our time and now decided what to do, how to do it,
and who will do it to you. You are a mental gnat, a menace to decent
society, a fantasist and a waste of carbon.

How embarrassing for you top found your decision making on lies and fantasies!

Even fuckwad Ukip wouldn’t
have you, and that takes some doing.

I never made ANY attempt to join Ukip and never sought election with or to Ukip – so yet another fact wrong!

Sandhurst and Cambridge, don’t make
me laugh.

Sandhurst Intake 38 Gaza Company 1965
Cambridge – a boarder at Kings from about 1954 > until I went as a boarder to Clifton, Bristol.

For an attention-junkie like you, some might think you are going
to enjoy the first part of your shafting. Oh no you won’t. All those about whom you have obsessively lied and smeared, is it mere hundreds or now is it now thousands,

I have NEVER lied or deliberately misled anyone regarding anyone and never once has anyone shown me to have lied about anyone.

are going to give the Glos constab a truly monumental
list of suspects, and a lot of entertainment while going through it.

I shall leave you to ponder at your fate if thwe Police choose to track you down.

Your perversion and deceit will serve as your epitaph.

Perversion and deceit that are a product of your own sick mind and that you are too cowardly to show a single proven example of, as you have none.

Our fear is that justice might be cheated by your ailments, put upon your head by Divine will, so we are not going to delay.

It is clear you have much to fear as you hide as a coward in anonymity, spouting your vile fantasies to look important!

We’re not going to let The Royal Gwent steal what is our just due. We know you won’t dare to put this on your website.

Wrong yet again! In fact you seem not to have a single fact to back your odious rant.

When it comes, remember what you wrote about an honourable lady and her brave husband.

I haven’t a clue who you are alluding to nor have I EVER written about a husband and wife without substantiation.

Shake in fear, GLW, for the implied word was ‘warrant’.

I don’t think I’ll bother – I shall leave the readers of this blog to judge as they will see clearly that you are a foul mouthed, ill informed, abusive and dishonest fantasist.

Till the next time, loser.

A cowardly end from a confused and misled fantasist.

if the rumours have substance

It is self evident that NONE of your rumours and claims have substance!
Do save yourself the effort of sending more of your vile and inaccurate fantasies – as they will be most unlikely to be read let alone graced with debunking, as you have proved to be wrong on ALL counts.

UPDATE 08:35hrs. 04-Mar-2015.

I have received this response in my InBox having eMailed a copy of my posting to the dishonest & cowardly little chap who tries to hide behind ‘Anonymous’.

Microsoft Outlook <MicrosoftExchange329e71ec88ae4615bbc36ab6ce41109e@btconnect.onmicrosoft.com>
Wed 04/03/2015 03:57
 To:

Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net>;
To send this message again, click here.
foto.nl1.torservers.net rejected your message to the following email addresses:
Anonymous (anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net)
The email address wasn’t found at the destination domain. It might be misspelled or it might not exist any longer. Try retyping the address and resending the message.
If that doesn’t work, contact the recipient (by phone or instant messaging, for example) to check that the address is correct. If the problem continues, forward this message to your email admin.
For Email Administrators
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foto.nl1.torservers.net gave this error:
<anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net>: Recipie

He would of course prove very easy to track down should I wish the Police to identify the odious little inadequate.

 

My computer, having a better recall system for trivia than I have has tracked down a Sarah, who may well be known as Sarah Jane, with whom I have communicated I was misled by reference to her unfortunate husband of whom I seem to have no record, perhaps because he was too ashamed of his comments to risk identification, as with the cowardly ‘Anonymous’ above.

 

You may asses for yourself just what a vile young woman she is from her vile comments, which I posted at CLICK HERE together with my response to her odious behaviour.

 

I also have reason to believe she is the same individual who phoned me one morning using obscene and abusive language and befouling the name & reputation of an unfortunate young lad who had managed to get killed, by my house, whilst travelling to work late one morning – the details so far are at the same location and I now await the Coroner’s Court judgement at the inquest when it is available – however its findings seem all too likely, as has been made fairly clear in some areas of social media.

 

In respect for the dead and injured and their true friends and relatives I have declined to pass on any judgement until the Court findings are made public and have also not published anonymous comments that were obscene or offensive, for the same reasons.

 

Also for the same reasons I have refrained from posting this posting on the site concerned and have ensured that the names of the victims of the accident are not included here, thus avoiding embarrassment for the relatives and actual friends of those victims.

 

As the source of much of the dishonest and distorted drivel from ‘Anonymous’ clearly was concocted from corrupt lies published by Matt Quinn and others relative to the Hollie Greig Scam I feel it appropriate to use this blog to correct their sick fantasies.

 

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The Vermin Now In Support Of Robert Green’s Criminality

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/01/2015

The Vermin Now In Support Of Robert Green’s Criminality

This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE CLICK HERE

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Hi,

 

those following the machinations of the criminal Robert Green and his plea of ‘Guilty’ in Court, to the latest round of charges against him may be interested in this conversation as posted on YouTube:

+Greg L-W. Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one. Sums up your weak reply and complete avoidance to the facts I have given. Proves my point of you being a cowardly little boy. Unless you have something of relevance to say go and crawl back into the hole you came out of kthx
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+SuperEarther
Hi,

You seem to have no valid points to make based on facts, such as there is absolutely zero admissible evidence to support your fantasies and so you reveal your true intellectual abil;ity and resort to abuse and obscenities!You seem to have much in common with this excellent description of the stereotypical Hollie Greig hoax supporter aiding the lies of Robert Green and his cult followers:

@user/pookster78

11 hours ago

MALCOLM KONRAD OGILVY,

I notice you have copied the other conversation from here onto your
facebook account.

I have to say, looking at your facebook I can’t help but feel a bit
sorry for you. I read a bit about the false allegations you made
concerning your own daughter and comments you made about your ex
partner. To give you the benefit of the doubt I looked at her facebook.

I don’t know if she was ever a washout like you but if she was, she
certainly doesn’t look it now. Maybe that’s what eats you up. She looks
clean, healthy and happy. They have a lovely little family unit going on
with positive comments to her friends. In fact, it looks like your
average facebook account.

Compare that to yours. Your facebook is the ramblings of a deranged
manchild obsessed with paedophilia.

You have arguments and paranoia towards “friends” and accuse anyone who
disagrees with you of being a paedophile.

You misread and misinterpret documents you have concerning your
daughters case. You even coached her to say phrases which would imply
she had been abused, and put it on video. Sexualizing your daughter like
that is tantamount to sexual abuse in itself.

Perhaps the saddest part of all is you have no recent pictures of
yourself. Just pictures from a time when you actually were a decent
looking lad. Now you look like Gollum after a 3 week bender in
Amsterdam…like you should be asking people for a spare pound for your
“bus”. Just like Gollum you have become dishevelled,dark, twisted,
paranoid and obsessive. It shows that on some level even you don’t want
to be what you are now, harking back to times gone by.

Your videos are of you bullying middle aged innocent women outside
court. It’s cowardly and pathetic.

You have a video of your mum and don’t seem to realise that the rolling
of eyes and sighing is actually because she has had to listen to
your incessant drivel for years now.

Even on your website, which is supposed to be about justice for a girl
with DS, you call someone a “MONG”. I mean, what the actual fuck is
wrong with you?

This life and world owes you nothing. All your problems are from within
you and only you can change them. If you don’t you risk losing
everything you care about. I don’t think you have what it takes but i’d
love for you to come back here in the future and rub it in my face by
proving me wrong

I have a challenge for you Malcolm. You copied the other conversation to
facebook, I challenge you to copy this too. I challenge you to ask your
friends to be 100% honest with you and tell you if i’m wrong or right.
If the world really is against you, or that you are your own worst
enemy. I may have seemed harsh in what I said but that’s because nobody
else seems to give you the kick up the arse you need. I have probably
been more honest with you in this single comment than your groupies have
ever. The beauty is Malcolm, you know in your own head whether I’m
right or wrong.Therefore, if you want to know which of your “friends”
really are friends, then take the challenge and see who is honest. Allow
the honest ones to help you.

Good LuckDo save yourself the embarrassment of displaying your ignorance in a response.I trust you cope with the rest of your life and its ignorance of reality in your tin foil hat and conspiracy theories hidden in cowardice behind foul language, ill manners, ignorance and a false identity (little wonder!)Regards,Greg_L-Whttp://HollieGreigetc(dot)Wordpress(dot)com.

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+Greg L-W. Really? PS you still have not answered my comment about you trying to setup Malcolm and naming all the people before robert spoke out.

To which I replied:

Hi,

please identify EXACTLY where I am alleged to have ‘set-up’ this character Malcolm and for what do you allege I supposedly ‘set him up’?

As I made very clear I have answered your other question on http://HollieGreigetc(dot)Wordpress(dot)com

Further it was addressed in dertail on the web site under the StolenKids sites of which the Hollie Greig specific site was hacked and removed as it held all the documentary material and media comments mostly in accurate chronological order – including the autopsy and death certificate of Robert (Roy) Greig pertaining to and making very clear his death was a suicide – it also contained factual data showing the suicide to have been uremarkable in any way and understandable in the cirtcumstances.

The site also contained correspondence from Greg Mackie and photographs supplied by him.

The site also showed with factual support the clear rebuttal of many of the more prominent fantasies as promoted by the criminal actions of Robert Green and also by Hollie’s mother Anne and thei ill informed cult followers.

It would seem that the siute was hacked to remove it because it contained cross referemced, documented provenance of the irrefutable fact that there is not one shred of substantive, corroborated admissible evidence in support of the fantasies and allegations put forward by Anne, Robert Green or their odious cult followers – all of whom were made clearly aware, with factual details that the allegations regarding Hollie and Roy Greig were a tissue of lies constructed by Robert Green & Anne.

IF there was one shred of truth in the scam then I challenge those who colluded in the removal of the facts I had posted to supply me with a copy of the site, which I will re-post and discuss in detail with any civil, rational individual willing to put his identity to his comments and postings.

Further I re-iterate my challenge to the fantasists to debate the issue face to face in a public venue – in a civilised and ordered manner.

Robert Green is a criminal as proven and has lied and distorted these issues for his own gain and notoriety and has received absolutely zero support from anyone of credible stature who is informed upon the issue and now he has finally pleaded guilty in Court to the latest related charges.

May I suggest that you make an effort to restore the entire paper trail of facts as was posted on my blog and hackerd and removed by the fantasists.

Once that is done read the details there and on my present web site and until adequately informed save yourself from the embarrassment of further making a fool of yourself.

May I add, when armed with the facts, as I have outlined, you may even have the confidence and integrity to use your real name for your apology to those you have abused and insulted.

Until then farewell to you.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.
http://HollieGreigetc(dot)Wordpress(dot)com

 

+SuperEarther Lol, breaching court ethics, this is YT buddy.

What will the charge be “knowing things about someone”?

I will tell you a little story:
I came to YT and commented on a video concerning Hollie Greig. Malcolm then commented me calling me a “Hoax cunt” and that “give us a shout next time you’re in Glenshee”

Now, the reason he mentioned Glenshee is because he Googled my user name and seen me comment on a video about snowboarding at Glenshee. What Malcolm did was give a veiled threat. I decided therefore to investigate his username “holliegreig justice”.

During that search I found someone give his real name. I then googled his real name and found his facebook. ALL the information in my previous post is found on his facebook. I am not on his friends list so the information I found is open to the public. It is not a crime to know public information. Further, on his facebook you will see screenshots of my previous comment on this video. Malcolm also comments that “Scotty” is kicking their asses. Malcolm means you. Maybe you are David Scott who apparently made the above court description, but I am certainly not “Maggs”.

It’s funny isn’t it:
-Malcolm stands on a public street accusing innocent people of being child abusers.
– Malcolm accuses the police of covering up and being suspect paedos, giving their names and numbers on his facebook (might be a good idea he deletes those before you call the police).
– Malcolm accuses people on here of being paedos or paedo enablers.

Yet what is the first thing you bozos do when someone confronts you, or like Redprovo, accuses you guys of being paedos?…that’s right….you run to the very police you accuse of covering up a satanic paedophile ring. Cowardly little hypocrites. Especially that Robert Green. A man who will give lectures and appear on tv shows calling people paedophiles. Yet, when confronted and asked questions he runs away and suddenly can’t speak.

You guys are pathetic scum, plain and simple.

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+pookster78

Hi,

I do agree with you.

It is also astonishing to note just how similarly these odious people behave to many actual already proven paedophiles in their vile language, ready willingness to insult and abuse and their desperation to deflect any rational discourse which could risk exposing true paedophiles, who are so like these unpleasant criminals.

They seem to delight in competing with eachother to see how obscene and abusive they can be and get away with it. They are truelly the under belly of society, those who make decent folk turn away from exposing paedophelia and abuse for fear of being tarred with the same brush as these vile social pariahs.

One is forced to wonder just howmany of them are themselves either practicing or on the verge of paedophelia – You will note they have absolutely no comprehension of just how close verbal and physical abuse are to the sexual abuse of children by such inadequates.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.
http://HollieGreigetc(WordPress(dot)com

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ENOUGH:

I believe that small sample will tell you all you need to know about the vile supporters in the cult following of Robert Green’s confessed criminality!

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The Stereotypical Hollie Greig Conspiracy Supporter

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/01/2015

The Stereotypical Hollie Greig Conspiracy Supporter.

This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE CLICK HERE

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Hi,

I was interested to read a comment on a partyicularly foolish YouTube article reporting Robert Green’s plea of guilty in court on the 21-Jan-2015, which was particularly misleading and ill informed at best and merely dishonest in potential.

The posting was most interesting as it so exemplified the majority of those who have been duped by the lies of Anne Greig & Robert Green in their abuse of Hollie Greig for their own ends – those who are still making fools of themselves despite the irrefutable fact that the hoax they had foist on the publoc about allegations of sexual abuse and that her uncle Robert (Ray) Greig’s suicide was some sort of murder – a conspiracy theory for which there is not one shred of evidence in the face of death certificate, autopsy, police reports and more that ALL show every reason why this was a suicide.

This comment placed on the YouTube web site at:
https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=PydXRHhtIC0

So typifies the style and behaviour of the cult following of the tinfoil hat brigade still following and promoting the lies that I felt it worthy of reproduction:

MALCOLM KONRAD OGILVY,
I notice you have copied the other conversation from here onto your facebook account. I have to say, looking at your facebook I can’t help but feel a bit sorry for you.
I read a bit about the false allegations you made concerning your own daughter and comments you made about your ex partner.
To give you the benefit of the doubt I looked at her facebook. I don’t know if she was ever a washout like you but if she was, she certainly doesn’t look it now.
Maybe that’s what eats you up. She looks clean, healthy and happy. They have a lovely little family unit going on with positive comments to her friends. In fact, it looks like your average facebook account.
Compare that to yours.
Your facebook is the ramblings of a deranged manchild obsessed with paedophilia. You have arguments and paranoia towards “friends” and accuse anyone who disagrees with you of being a paedophile.
You misread and misinterpret documents you have concerning your daughters case.
You even coached her to say phrases which would imply she had been abused, and put it on video. Sexualizing your daughter like that is tantamount to sexual abuse in itself.
Perhaps the saddest part of all is you have no recent pictures of yourself. Just pictures from a time when you actually were a decent looking lad.
Now you look like Gollum after a 3 week bender in Amsterdam…like you should be asking people for a spare pound for your “bus”.
Just like Gollum you have become dishevelled, dark, twisted, paranoid and obsessive. It shows that on some level even you don’t want to be what you are now, harking back to times gone by.
Your videos are of you bullying middle aged innocent women outside court. It’s cowardly and pathetic.
You have a video of your mum and don’t seem to realise that the rolling of eyes and sighing is actually because she has had to listen to your incessant drivel for years now.
Even on your website, which is supposed to be about justice for a girl with Downs Syndrome, you call someone a “MONG”.
I mean, what the actual fuck is wrong with you?
This life and world owes you nothing.
All your problems are from within you and only you can change them. If you don’t you risk losing everything you care about.
I don’t think you have what it takes but i’d love for you to come back here in the future and rub it in my face by proving me wrong.
I have a challenge for you Malcolm.
You copied the other conversation to facebook, I challenge you to copy this too.
I challenge you to ask your friends to be 100% honest with you and tell you if i’m wrong or right.
If the world really is against you, or that you are your own worst enemy.
I may have seemed harsh in what I said but that’s because nobody else seems to give you the kick up the arse you need.
I have probably been more honest with you in this single comment than your groupies have ever.
The beauty is Malcolm, you know in your own head whether I’m right or wrong.
Therefore, if you want to know which of your “friends” really are friends, then take the challenge and see who is honest.
Allow the honest ones to help you.
Good Luck.

I found it quite incredible just howmany of the inadequates supporting the lies of sexual abuse of Hollie and the suicide of Roy Greg this comment could have been about – in fact almost all of the bitter twisted conspiracy theworists even including those making money from the scam, either directly or indirectly like Robert Green, Peter Eyre, David Icke, Belinda McKenzie, Brian Gerrish and also those who have built their sad sick lives around their particular interests in paedophelia and the sexual abuse of children and those who may dare to seek the truth rather than perpetuate the conspiracies and fantasies like Matt Quinn, George McKendrick, Sandy Fox, and so many others – including those too ashamed of themselves to use their real names!

I await an accurate plausible soundly sourced report on Robert Green’s one honest day in court so far, in which he pleaded guilty on the 21-Jan-2015 – I will then publish the report and the details of the summary and sentencing on 04-Mar-20125.

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Greg_L-W.

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The Lies of Robert Green & The Hollie Greig Hoax

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/06/2014

The Lies of Robert Green & The Hollie Greig Hoax:

This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE CLICK HERE

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The Lies of Robert Green
&
The Hollie Greig Hoax:

ROBERT GREEN’S LIES – HIS TRIAL – AMAZINGLY THEN SEEKS PROTECTION FROM THE “CORRUPT” SCOTTISH JUDICIARY….

 

Posted by: In: Jon Stevenson & Maggs Shaw 02 Jun 2014 

A SHORT MONTAGE FEATURING SOME OF ROBERT GREEN’S LIES.Here are some examples, of which there are many more, but we have put just these few together to show you how Robert Green will change his story, or to put it simply, blatantly lie in order to seek credibility for the fantasies he insists are true. The story is so full of holes now it is sinking faster than it is possible to keep up with.

 

 

psychiatric report - anne elizabeth mackie 05 Hollie into care

 

Robert Green went back to Aberdeen Sheriff Court on 30th May 2014 in order his defence could submit pleads of “Competency and Relevance.”

 

When we arrived,  Belinda McKenzie was setting up her wares outside the Aberdeen Court, pulling a battered old shopping trolley full of leaflets and a piece of 3×2 with a shoddy looking Hollie Demands Justice  poster stuck to it.

 

Sadly, when she became aware of our presence, she tail hiked it out of there,  almost getting run over in the process, and then proceeded to set up ‘stall’ on the street corner a little further down the road.

 

 

This was viewed as extremely odd behaviour.   For the last few years Belinda has used a megaphone, just to make sure everyone could hear her, it seemed as if it was almost welded to her mouth.  Of course that was used during the period everyone believed her, when everyone thought the ‘story’ was true, and she could command a more than willing audience.   Belinda running away!?  testimony to the fact…. Belinda is not happy at all to answer questions…she is far happier, and much more in her comfort zone…  to ‘tell’ people.      Or, was her sharp exit something to do with her not wanting the ‘new friend’ that accompanied her to the  Court being made aware of the 75 million pounds that just disappeared, went missing, from the coffers of Iran Aid, a Charity that Belinda was involved in.   Or,  perhaps,  is it possible her new friend is part of the ‘new venture’, one that Belinda is helping to set up  ….strangely enough…another charity.  The Knight Foundation.

 

 

With only 10 minutes to go before Court opened, we decided to make our way into the court building where we found Mr Green sitting all alone outside Court number 4 waiting for the doors to open.

 

“How do you see it going to day Robert” he was asked, to which his reply was “can’t speak” with a wave of his hand and then a dash to the Police to look for protection.

 

Robert complained that we were trying to talk to him – no doubt he used more flowery language than that when reporting to the Police, but, these are the same Police Robert has, for more than four years now, over and over again called “corrupt, paedophile protectors, Freemasons and pronouncing they simply could not be trusted – not to mention accusing them of covering up murder for which the entire Scottish Judiciary are involved.

 

During the hearing the Sheriff informed all that no one was to attempt to communicate with Robert, and should they do so they would be committing contempt of court and could come up on charges in front of his honour.

 

UPDATE SUNDAY 1ST JUNE  from the anonymous author on Free Robert Green

 

“Attempts by the Hollie Greig Hoax campaign to engage Robert in conversation, against the restrictions placed on him by the court, were again reported to the police by Robert. They were also brought to the attention of the court by Robert’s QC and the Sheriff warned that this behaviour must stop or those responsible could be held in contempt of court. So Robert should not be troubled further in this way. A small issue but another example of the court defending Robert’s rights.”

 

At last, Robert has finally realised.  He is not allowed to communicate with anyone about this matter.   Unfortunately,  it has taken 4 years for him to fully understand, but during this time, it has taken,  two terms in prison, two interdicts, many arrests, cost the tax payer thousand and thousands of pounds, distressed his family, and many innocent people he accused of being paedophiles, incited hate against these people, and, willfully, and purposefully repeatedly called the Scottish Judiciary corrupt.

 

In view of the last sentence in the above quote, we trust that Robert will be retracting his statements about the Scottish Judiciary.

 

Robert might find this difficult though because Sheriff Fleetwood declared that Sheriff G Buchanan was in fact his adversary a few years ago.  So seemingly they are friends. Will Mr Green be placing him on his ‘hit’ list too?   That is quite doubtful judging by the smiles and joviality towards Sheriff Fleetwood by Robert – he is probably grateful for his assistance.

 

For was it not Mr Green that claimed there was a massive cover up of a paedophile ring involving high ranking members of the Scottish Judiciary?  Hypocrisy? Irony? or just down right stupidity on Mr Green’s behalf! Robert knew in June 2010 that Sheriff Buchanan was NOT involved with the Hollie Greig case, and that he did not have a sister or sister in law named Evelyn, nor is his brother named Jack!

 

But Robert carried on regardless.

 

No doubt supporters will find it hard to believe the Scottish Judiciary are now protecting “Robert Green” …..

 

…another quote from the article

 

“No longer is Robert treated as an interloper and troublemaker, the court is far more measured, far more neutral. Just as in the case of the previous bail hearing, there is a visible public fairness being displayed.”

 

It always has been, it is just that conspiracy theorists DON’T want it to be.  Perhaps,  Mr Green might make a public apology to the Scottish Judiciary he has so viciously persecuted during the last few years. Strange situation, because, as pointed out previously, Mr Green  ran to the very people he claims are corrupt and are child abusers… I am not sure if there is a word in the Oxford/English dictionary which could describe this scenario, unless anyone would care to invent one?

 

Now of course, when Robert feels the need, the Scottish Police are his trustworthy protectors and upholders of the law.  Have no doubt, he will now see these tyrants in a new light.    Will  Brian Gerrish be able to refrain from including Sheriff Fleetwood on his comprehensive, unseen  list of other corrupt Scottish paedophile criminals you so often hear him talk about…?

 

Here’s an excerpt from “Hollie Demands Justice:”

 

“It would seem that the Scottish crown, has enabled the alleged abusers to find a method of resolution, at no cost, allowing them to hide behind the judiciary, aiding and abetting a Sheriff who, seemingly had access to the public purse in pursuit of the arrest of Robert Green on a breach of the peace charge so that he could be silenced.”

 

And here is a letter Robert penned recently,  while in prison,  again clearly showing him abusing and defaming the Scottish Judiciary:

 

PN 125799

HMP PERTH

3 EDINBURGH RD

PERTH

PH2 8AT

Hello Belinda

I am currently reading about the horrific Marc Dutroux case in Belgium and the comparisons between the Belgian authorities and their Scottish equivalents over Hollie’s case are alarmingly similar and almost as chilling.

It is hard to credit a political system with the slightest perception of civilisation when it consistently refuses to bring the perpetrators of such horrors to justice, particularly when some are known to the authorities, as demonstrated by the contents of the police intelligent report.

I do not know if or when I shall be freed, but thank you for everything. Please tell Hollie from me that any honour I receive or am nominated for will be first and foremost, dedicated to her!

Very best wishes

Robert

 

Marc Dutroux case – There was widespread anger and frustration among Belgians due to police errors, the general slowness of the investigation and Dutroux’s claims that he was part of a sex ring that included high-ranking members of the police force and government. This suspicion that Dutroux had been, or was being, protected, and anger over the outcome, culminated when the popular judge in charge of investigating the claims was dismissed on the grounds of having participated in a fund-raising dinner for the girls’ parents. The investigation itself was wrapped up. His dismissal and end of the investigation resulted in a massive protest march (the “White March”) of 300,000 people on the capital, Brussels, in October 1996, two months after Dutroux’s arrest, in which demands were made for reforms of Belgium’s police and justice system.

 

Of course, it’s been a long term aim of both Robert Green and Brian Gerrish of the UK Column to link genuine cases to Hollie Greig, and this is yet another attempt to do just that. But it once again shows Green’s contempt for the Scottish Judiciary, even though throughout his hearing he was smiling and laughing along with Sheriff Fleetwood in those moments of digress……Hypocrisy should be Mr Green’s middle name but we must remember he is yet another victim in all of this – and his deteriorating mental state is now clearly visible….

 

For around two hours the Court heard Green’s defence barrister argue that the Crown’s accusations were neither competent or relevant.  He sighted many different cases in an attempt to weigh his argument for which Sheriff Fleetwood was most courteous and gave him plenty of time to fully explain his somewhat semantic legal points of law as well as confirming that Robert broke his harassment order by sending letters, emails, blog writing and appearing on a TV internet show – just as we have always maintained.

 

It didn’t take long however for Prosecutor Mackintosh to further explain the Crown’s position which seemed to completely override the defence and push this case further down the road to a full trial – or if Robert knows what is good for him a plea of “Guilty” for which he should be released as he has served half of a sentence applicable for such an offence.

 

Indeed that is what we believe will happen in the coming weeks – around 6 weeks to be precise it will be decided whether the case against Green should be thrown out, found guilty, or a trial will begin but whatever the outcome Robert Green is unlikely to see anymore jail time but will cost the Scottish Tax Payer more of their hard earned cash.

 

Mr Green might fall into the trap, the trap being set for him, enticing him to carry on with this fruitless, futile campaign by being informed that some anonymous MP has put his name forward for nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize

 

“Perhaps the letter writing, and Nobel Prize nominating action by supporters and Roberts quiet determination that justice and truth are worth fighting for is having an effect. We must keep up the work of course, but the last two court appearances have given the Hollie Greig campaign something it lacked during the dark days around the Stonehaven trial – legitimate hope”

 

 

Gillian Swanson on May 21, 2014 at 12:20 pm said commenting on Free Robert Green.
 

“Oh mentioned the Nobel Prize Nomination – this was given a lot of attention on the UK Column News yesterday, some people had been saying it wasn’t genuine, because of the MP not being named, but Brian Gerrish said this was nonsense, he knew the MP in question, and he has the support of others. Would it be a good idea to send copies of the nomination letter along with letters and e-mails ?”

 

Unfortunately Brian Gerrish refrains from showing anyone anything!  He still refuses, or more likely, cannot produce any evidence or testimony”  outlining his ‘success stories’ concerning anti child abuse campaigning.  It might be prudent to take anything Mr Gerrish says with a massive pinch of salt.  Yes,  why is it that Belinda is reluctant to publish the emails/letters concerning Mr Green and the Nobel Peace Prize?  Could it be they do not have any?   Has anyone seen confirmation from the anonymous MP?

 

Mr Green will be attending Court in July.  We will also be there to hear the decision live and will report on it asap. Whatever the conclusion in this case you can bet on one thing – we will continue to watch Robert with a keen eye and should he once again break his court order we will have no hesitancy in letting the authorities know about it while still trying to bring to justice the other perpetrators – Yes -you know who you are!

 

Mr Green, not permitted to talk about the Hollie Greig Case, magic to many people’s ears…..long may it reign.

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  1. Posted by Greg Lance – Watkins, [aka Greg_L-W.] 04 Jun 2014 at 12:16 am Reply

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    Hi,

    although, having shown and proved that the Hollie Greig stories of sexual abuse and the claims regarding her uncle Roy’s suicide were clearly and undeniably a hoax, or to put it more accurately an unsustainable tissue of lies and fantasies some years ago I am astonished that the rascal Robert Green is still permitted to waste the time and money of tax payers with his fabrications and lies.

    Possibly even more surprising is the fact that there are still low lifes and scoundrels who still claim to believe his lies and support his odious behaviour.

    One can understand crooks like Brian Gerrish, David Icke and Belinda McKenzie continuing to try to promote the scam as it seems they seek, in one way or another, to profit from the perpetuation of the lies but the claque of fools determined not to address the facts and unable to accept that there is absolutely no evidence to back the claims that can be considered admissible in any rational court of law is now beyond doubt and every crumb put forward has been shown to be wrong, a lie or inadequate.

    As is a matter of record: I denounced the scam some years ago and exposed many of the lies and liars in the cult surrounding Anne Mackie/Greig and her fantasies surrounding her daughter and family.

    I also made very public my apologies to anyone I may have embarrassed in the early years of Anne Mackie’s promotion of the scam, which I freely accept I was wrong to do having been lied to by Anne, Robert Green and Stuart Usher

    I am happy to yet again apologise if I caused any embarrassment in my willingness to try and assist and support someone who ‘claimed’ to be a victim and have sought to make amends for my early gullibility by exposing the hoax and showing it to be unfounded and unsustainable.

    I am happy to endorse the actions of those involved in the web site >TheHollieGreigCoverUp.net< and the facts they provide which I believe, in the light of the evidence, to be fair, responsible and a presentation of facts.

    Regards,
    Greg_L-W.
    PS.:
    for more details see:
    http://HollieGreigetc.wordpress.com

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