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MATT QUINN – By His Daughter Sinead

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/04/2017

The Truth About MATT QUINN – By His Daughter Sinead

This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE CLICK HERE

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eMail: Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com

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Hi,

I appreciate one should feel sorry for someone like Matt Quinn with his vitriolic obsessions buty if one has ever dipped into the sewer that passes for his blog I for one find it impossible.

It is clear the sad sick little man with his violent and random colour changes and gratuitous obscene language, used presumably to make him seem grown up in attitude but showing him as an ignorant and disturbed inadequate. His ability to distort and fantasise is astonishing as he consistently presents 2+2 as being at least 5 and more often than not more like qo times removed from reality or facvt – I see no point in presenting the corrections and facts to prove them awere one to fisk his rants as he would then be distorting yet more material to feed his sick and sickening posturing.

Suffice to say it is clear that he has lost his temper and made a complete fool of himself in his anger at being exposed and his fantasising about me is provably nonsense but frankly who cares what the silly little inadequate says or thinks! I have never cared what the ill informed and unstable have to say about me as I fortunately do not live in their world of gutter sweepings and I am in the fortunate position that those who know me know the truth and those who don’t, frankly what do I care what they think.

So back to dealing with the facts and exposing the truth:

Personally I have found Matt Quinn to be a toxic, dishonest, utterly corrupt and vituperative low life, with the reputation that if you locked him in a cupboard he would pick a fight with the shelves and distort any issue to support his sad sick self opinion and vicious self obsessed ego.

However he has proved to any but the foolish and the gullible to be a sad figure of self pity and vicious aggression willing to publish any libel aware that his best defence, were he brought to court, would be mental health – showing his long track record of difficulty with anger management and fantasy.

Matt Quinn’s sole contribution to the sad stories promoted by Anne McKay (nee Greig) and her fantasies readily latched onto by Robert Green, George McKendrick, Belinda McKenzie and the band of sick and delusional parasites who latched onto the stories about Holly Greig was that like the other paedophile tourist and sexually depraved voyeurs he would seem to have been there for his own self agrandisement and pleasure in finding others to attack to bolster his personal inadequacies and failures. He may equally likely be obsessed as a means to feed some sick interest in children, paedophelia and abuse of women, one can but speculate – but it is clear from his blog and other articles he is a very disturbed individual.

See also: CLICK HERE  also HERE & also try entering Matt Quinn in the search box at the top of the Right Sidebar on this page, for more facts about the odious fellow.

Perhaps one of the best ways to consider this odious little inadequate is to read his daughter’s opinion of him.

WHO THE HELL IS RATHNEY
– the truth about Matt Francis Quinn

You will note that the original site Matt Quinn’s daughter posted on has been removed by Google, there have I gather been claims made that the site was based on forged documents from the Scottish National Archive! I believe sucha an allegation to be profoundly unlikely.

You will find a copy of that original site at:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170412003049/http://kerryannlogan.blogspot.com/2016/05/who-hell-is-rathney-truth-about-matt.html#!https://kerryannlogan.blogspot.com/2016/05/who-hell-is-rathney-truth-about-matt.html

You will also find the details at:

https://holliegreigetc.wordpress.com/2016/05/16/the-truth-about-matt-quinn-by-his-daughter-kerryann-logan/

 

It has been confirmed to me by eMail from Matt Quinn’s daughter Sinead that she was the author of the text in this blog and thanked me for republishing the facts, unaltered – however she has asked me to remove the eMail copy of the birth certificate that was sent to me, confirming it was hers but asking for it not to be displayed.

The birth certificate was removed at 13:35hrs. 04-Jun-2016, as requested by her.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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Hollie Greig Justice Site Publishes Yet More Annonymous Lies …

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/03/2017

Hollie Greig Justice Site Publishes Yet More Annonymous Lies …

This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE CLICK HERE

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www.InfoWebSite.UK

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Hi,

I had my attention drawn to this posting on the web blog that claims to campaign for Justice for Hollie Greig – a site I very rarely visit as it has so often lied and deliberately misled people and has provided a platform for some of Britain’s most notable lowlifes and associates elsewhere.

It is also a site that clearly revels in the sordid and perverse, perversion and unpleasant – a site best suited to the perverted who wish to read about every form of depravity mankind stoops to, wherever in the world or however irrelevant to the criminality of Kate & Gerry McCann, which I have clearly enumerated and explained why I believe they should be prosecuted.

It is notable that this perverted site harbours the postings of those who post under false names and in the manner of voyeurs and those deriving vicarious pleasure from reading details of the most sordid of perversions and behaviour.

I avoid such sites as they are unpleasant and all too often inaccurately or outright sensational and destructive lies. Yet again it seems they have chosen to publish annonymous comments without the slightest effort to check their facts in the most amateur and irresponsible manner viz:

Clearly the featured photo is not me, all that we have in common is grey hair and glasses – a situation amongst most men of a ‘certain age’, even the grey colour of hair and eye colour have no similarity!

As ever the site is 100% wrong!

I doubt they will publish a correction or appology as such false stories suit their agenda of dishonesty.

Unfortunately I was not available to correct their lies sooner but at the time I was in hospital having yet another operation!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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  • I AM IN FAVOUR of rapid research & development of NEW NUCLEAR technologies
  • I see no evidence to trust POLITICIANS at any level or of any persuasion
  • I do NOT believe in GODS singular or plural, Bronze Age or Modern
  • I value the NHS as a HEALTH SERVICE NOT a Lifestyle support
  • I believe in a DEATH PENALTY for serial or GBH rape.
  • I believe in a DEATH PENALTY for serial, terrorist, mass or for pleasure murder.
  • I believe in a DEATH PENALTY for serial gross child abuse including sexual.
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The Truth About MATT QUINN – By His Daughter Sinead

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/05/2016

The Truth About MATT QUINN – By His Daughter Sinead

This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE CLICK HERE

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Posted by:
Greg Lance – Watkins
Greg_L-W

eMail: Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com

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Hi,

I appreciate one should feel sorry for someone like Matt Quinn with his vitriolic obsessions buty if one has ever dipped into the sewer that passes for his blog I for one find it impossible.

It is clear the sad sick little man with his violent and random colour changes and gratuitous obscene language, used presumably to make him seem grown up in attitude but showing him as an ignorant and disturbed inadequate. His ability to distort and fantasise is astonishing as he consistently presents 2+2 as being at least 5 and more often than not more like qo times removed from reality or facvt – I see no point in presenting the corrections and facts to prove them awere one to fisk his rants as he would then be distorting yet more material to feed his sick and sickening posturing.

Suffice to say it is clear that he has lost his temper and made a complete fool of himself in his anger at being exposed and his fantasising about me is provably nonsense but frankly who cares what the silly little inadequate says or thinks! I have never cared what the ill informed and unstable have to say about me as I fortunately do not live in their world of gutter sweepings and I am in the fortunate position that those who know me know the truth and those who don’t, frankly what do I care what they think.

So back to dealing with the facts and exposing the truth:

Personally I have found Matt Quinn to be a toxic, dishonest, utterly corrupt and vituperative low life, with the reputation that if you locked him in a cupboard he would pick a fight with the shelves and distort any issue to support his sad sick self opinion and vicious self obsessed ego.

However he has proved to any but the foolish and the gullible to be a sad figure of self pity and vicious aggression willing to publish any libel aware that his best defence, were he brought to court, would be mental health – showing his long track record of difficulty with anger management and fantasy.

Matt Quinn’s sole contribution to the sad stories promoted by Anne McKay (nee Greig) and her fantasies readily latched onto by Robert Green, George McKendrick, Belinda McKenzie and the band of sick and delusional parasites who latched onto the stories about Holly Greig was that like the other paedophile tourist and sexually depraved voyeurs he would seem to have been there for his own self agrandisement and pleasure in finding others to attack to bolster his personal inadequacies and failures. He may equally likely be obsessed as a means to feed some sick interest in children, paedophelia and abuse of women, one can but speculate – but it is clear from his blog and other articles he is a very disturbed individual.

See also: CLICK HERE  also HERE & also try entering Matt Quinn in the search box at the top of the Right Sidebar on this page, for more facts about the odious fellow.

Perhaps one of the best ways to consider this odious little inadequate is to read his daughter’s opinion of him.

WHO THE HELL IS RATHNEY
– the truth about Matt Francis Quinn

 

It has been confirmed to me by eMail from Matt Quinn’s daughter Sinead that she was the author of the text in this blog and thanked me for republishing the facts, unaltered – however she has asked me to remove the eMail copy of the birth certificate that was sent to me, confirming it was hers but asking for it not to be displayed.

The birth certificate was removed at 13:35hrs. 04-Jun-2016, as requested.

 

As a man who actually ditched his own daughter when she was a baby, I suppose he is well acquainted with the damage that a ‘dead beat dad’ can do.”

 

                                         (‘The doting dad’)

Since 2010 I have been aware that detailed information regarding the whereabouts of my biological father existed online. I remember being in 5th or 6th year at school, aged 16 or 17 and opening the evening times one day to see him pictured standing in front of the now historic ‘red road Flats’, with an article below talking of his time spent there, how he started his businesses from those very flats. His ‘rags to riches’ story if you like.

(Aged 1-2)

My parents split when I was one. After a painfully abusive and mentally destructive nine-year marriage to my father. The story goes that my mother returned home one night from visiting relatives in Glasgow, to be confronted by my paternal father and his ‘Mistress’ Allegedly named ‘Linda’.  My mother had arrived home early, and naturally my  father would not have expected the mother of his one-year old baby girl to return to her marital home a mere 24 hours early. How dare she. He left, or more so was told to leave and his little piece of blonde ambition he had been keeping on the side followed.
After that night a two year divorce/custodial battle began, with my father filing for divorce based on ‘Intellectual differences’  – Hardly appropriate in my opinion based on the idiotic babble I’ve recently found online penned by the man himself. At aged two-ish, After a long and winded lawyer’s letter spat, my father decided that the commute from Livingstone where he resided with his mother, to Stevenston in Ayrshire (Approx. 2 hours away) apparently was too much for him to travel. Now forgive me for being naïve, But I would have thought any father fighting for the right to their child would be willing to make that journey if they were looking to seek sole custody of their baby. Apparently not. Thus resulting in him never to be seen by myself in person ever again.

I grew up, and he was never really a thought in my mind, My mother is, was and always will be a complete champion. We lived alone in our flat in Stevenston and it was there with her that I developed my love for 90’s music. The fondest memory I have of being there was on a Sunday, at aged 4 I would sit on the stool in the kitchen, watching my mum cook us a roast beef dinner, singing along to the likes of Oasis, Phil Collins and of course the Spice Girls. I never remember any of the darkness my mother suffered from. She never let negativity touch me.

Just before my 5th birthday, A ray of light came into our life. My mother became involved with my ‘Step-father’, and I use the term ‘step’ only for technical purposes. He has been forever my best friend, since the age of Five I was brought into a family, with a gran, and ten cousins, four uncles and aunts, and many more to follow. I took on his name at the age of 8 when he married my mum, and have always regarded him as my daddy.  He’s been there for me through the break-up of the Spice Girls, My first hangover, He bought me my first car, and this year will walk me down the aisle on my wedding day.

(AGED 4 – My Christening day)

And so this brings me back to when I was 17, Finding out after years of hearing bits and pieces about him, I finally have a clear image printed in a national paper, next to an article quoting this man reflecting on his time spent in the famous ‘Red Road’. It makes a good read, and should be available in all good toilets as optional toilet paper since half of the actual story is missing. My father in fact lived with my mother in the flat, and did in fact start ‘Their’ business together from those very bricks. She would take phone calls, and he would verbally abuse her when she incorrectly noted down information. The photo’s I have, show them happy, Living together with their black and white cats, it baffles me that it went so sour. 
Now I must make it clear that my mother has never ever denied her love for my biological sperm donor. She was besotted, and when they finally split in 1993/94 she was genuinely heart broken. She always had her suspicions that he was lying to her. Strange phone calls from a woman claiming to be one of his classmates, His late returns from college, because he was busy ‘filming’ all added to his case for ‘Husband of the year’.  I could go on, however I have respect for my mother, and as much as the truth outed would be fabulous for me. I can live with knowing what I know.

Last week I made a discovery, I discovered that my paternal father has not only re-produced myself. He actually has another 20 year old daughter, and a ‘wife’ of 23 years. Now maths was never my strongest subject, Geography and Modern Studies were more my kind of thing, However I am 24 this year… My parents were not legally divorced until 94/95 and something doesn’t quite add up right? In addition to this I also read online that the sperm donor has re-produced prior to his marriage to my mother…. A Chinese baby, born some 9 years before me, 6 months premature – Like me. (I was born at 6 months, and my mother suffered from preeclampsia having me, and had to give birth via emergency C section) The baby died at 6 days old, and had little more than a 15% chance of survival, Soon after this my father’s first partner was fatally killed in a road accident, which I would never wish on anyone and hope to god no one had to endure the pain of this horrendous loss, however, meeting my mother in 1983/1984, The very SAME year you lost your future wife and baby, you would expect this type of information would be disclosed to your wife of 9 years and future mother of your baby….
You can appreciate my further disappointment in the biological sperm donor, when I read on to see him ‘blogging’ about how thankful he is, that his at this point, 19 year old daughter, has been brought up in a safe, secure loving home, and that he has been able to ‘protect’ her.
I ask you this Matt, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY GOD DAMN PROTECTION!?

(FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL)

When you decided that a two hour commute was too much to see your baby daughter? When you sat every 14th of November knowing that it was my birthday, and never bothered to even send a wish in my direction, When you tortured my mother and had he believe she was a fool? When you stated in your lawyer’s letters to her that she would be ‘Incapable of educating me’. Let me tell YOU something, 6 Scottish highers later, and I did okay!!

I have never once longed for your existence, but the fact you have kept a sibling from me, and have potentially produced lie after lie regarding my own existence as a human being, proves exactly what type of man you are. To quote “Matt Quinn is a liar and a fantasist” – I could never confirm or deny if these allegations and things written ARE true, but you can bet your arse I’ve made my own mind up.

For my little sister Amanda, I hope you are smart and beautiful. I hope one day you know you have a big sister who would have loved you, who would have shared her sweets and played football with you in the park. I would have had you as a bridesmaid at my wedding, and would have taught you how to drive.

To ‘Linda’ I hope you never had to endure what my mother did.

And to you, Matt, I hope you know you missed a lot, I’ve grown to be a pretty successful young woman. I own my house, hold a position of authority in the motor trade, and will be getting married this year. My favourite subject as school was Geography, I have a higher in Art and Design, I am a good artist and I studied Social and economic studies at college. My favourite food is chicken. I passed my driving test first time with no minors when I was 17, when I was 6 I thought Phil Collins was my real dad… because he was bald. I have long dark curly hair and one of my favourite songs is ‘Brown eyed girl’ because my mum used to sing it to me when I was little. I grew to be the person I am because of my mother and father. My mother taught me never to hate you, she never once made herself out to be an arch angel, but she told me the truth and let me make my own mind up. She taught me how to love music, and has given me a life beyond my wildest dreams. I have wanted for nothing. My REAL daddy, taught me how to fit brakes to my car, showed me how to spray paint a motorbike, and teaches me every single god damn day the real meaning of unconditional love.

https://holliegreigetc.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/67e4e-sinead2bfb.jpg?w=462&h=554
(AGED 23 – Me Today)

Posted Yesterday by Kerryann Logan

Presumably Kerryann Logan is a friend of Matt Quinn’s daughter Sinead.

Interestingly I too have a daughter from a misguided marriage which failed almost 50 years ago – a daughter my wife chose to concieve, after we had agreed to part company, yet remained together out of expediency.

We involved no other parties as we were neither of us involved with other partners either seriously or casually when we separated. I had no intention of having a push me pull you daughter and stated that I was more than happy to bring up the child or cede the responsibility to my wife – however I stated that whoever had custody the other party would not interfere and would have no contact until the child was 18.

When our daughter was 18 she chose to contact me via my parents, who as grandparents had selected to remain available to my ex wife and daughter should they wish. As a result we met a few times but it was clear we had no link beyond genetics and have had no further contact. After my wife and I parted we built our own lives separately and the man she chose to be with did a sound job of acting as father to our daughter and my wife and he are, to the best of my knowledge, still happily enjoying their old age, in the sunshine, together – I wish them all well with their lives.

Unlike Matt Quinn I did not have a domestic sibling as with the young girl his mother effectively adopted, after Matt Quinn’s father had left her – the Chinese girl Matt Quinn made pregnant, I understand.

Unlike Matt Quinn I did not betray my wife by consorting with other women until we were apart.

I do not castigate Matt Quinn for his failed marriage but I find his determination to aggressively and dishonestly seek to exploit the unfortunate failures of others. What a hypocrite this vile little man is!

An odious little man who will open any dustbin he finds to feed his fantasies – I am told he has even jumped, gratuitously, on the tragic murder of Jo Cox by a mentally deranged man to try to pretend I had some part in it – it seems unlikely he had ever heard of her before her death as, unlike me, he would seem to have no ongoing interest in politics and no track record of campaigning in that field.

That the odious little man tried to embroil me in one of his fantasies as in some way connected to her death is a measure of his dangerous instability!

This is the man I hear this is an individual who lived in the red road with Kerryanne’s mother for sometime, living adjacent to his brother in law, claiming grants from the government in her mothers name, to start various different companies! Hardly surprising I guess when one realises he had made his own mother’s adopted daughter pregnant! A fact he uses to try to gain sympathy as the child of this young girl was born premature and died.

This is the individual who can be traced on many sites on the internet, where his behaviour is almost exclusively bullying and abusive, picking fights with people who seek to chat on Forums and the like – clearly such unpleasant behaviour is and has been a part of his personna for many years, one never seems to see him interacting in a friendly manner and he seems to be bereft of both friends and supporters and clearly is incapable of normal behaviour.

I note also that he and his direct family seem to be well spread on social media and there is a sad lack of friendly & normal interaction to be found with anyone. Endlessly self justifying and plenty of TELLING people as he presents himself as some sort of erudite genius – probably as result of his exposure to students as a man amongst boys when he is so clearly a boy amongst men!

QUINN, Amanda Rathney 01 FACEBOOK

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QUINN, Linda Rathney 01 FACEBOOK

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QUINN, Frank 01 FACEBOOK

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QUINN, Frank 02 FACEBOOK

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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MATT QUINN Proven To Be A Man of Straw & A Fantasist

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/11/2015

MATT QUINN Proven To Be A Man of Straw & A Fantasist

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This site was first posted on, on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of sexual abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others amongst their perverse cult following.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I unreservedly apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE at CLICK HERE

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Hi,

for all his pompose bullying and fabrication of evidence, which clearly led him to wrong conclusion after wrong conclusion, so wrong it was clear that he was not just an inadequate and untrustworth source for ANY information but was it seemed a malicious and failed personality.

QUINN, Matt 04

Matt Quinn can now be shown through company records to be a failure in other areas of his life also – little wonder he felt a need to denigrate others who dared to speak out and expose the truth!

The Caledonian Television Company Limited

15A Smithy Brae, Kirknewton, West Lothian, EH27 8AQ

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Company Name
The Caledonian Television Company Limited
Name Variation
The Caledonian Television Company Ltd
Status
ACTIVE (Dormant)
Category
Private Limited Company with Share Capital
Company Number
SC411305
Incorporation Date
15 November 2011
Company Age
3 Years 11 Months
Activity Description
The 30.11.14 accounts indicate that the company is either dormant or no longer trades.
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Registered Address
15A Smithy Brae
Kirknewton
West Lothian
EH27 8AQ
Country Origin
United Kingdom
Telephone
Unreported
Website
Unreported
Social
Unreported

People

Mr Matt Rathney-Quinn

Scottish • Director • 53 Years Old • Tv Producer

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Latest Financials

November 2014 Accounts
Net Worth (2012 – 2014)
20122013201450100150200

Cash In Bank

£0

Current Liabilities

£0

Employees

Unreported

Total Assets

£88

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£88

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2 years ago 15 Nov 2013

New Accounts Submitted

3 years ago 30 Nov 2012

Annual Return Submitted

3 years ago 15 Nov 2012

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4 years ago 15 Nov 2011

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WHICH SEEMS TO INDICATE THIS COMPANY OF MATT QUINN’S IS A MORIBUND/FAILED COMPANY WORTH £88.00

FROM: https://www.endole.co.uk/company/SC411305/the-caledonian-television-company-limited

So let’s look at:

Matt Quinn Ltd.:

Matt Quinn Ltd

15A Smithy Brae, Kirknewton, EH27 8AQ

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Company Name
Matt Quinn Ltd
Name Variation
Matt Quinn Limited
Status
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Category
Private Limited Company with Share Capital
Company Number
SC316846
Incorporation Date
20 February 2007
Company Age
8 Years 8 Months
Activity Description
Unreported
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Registered Address
15A Smithy Brae
Kirknewton
EH27 8AQ
Country Origin
United Kingdom
Telephone
01506 882234
Website
Unreported
Social
Unreported

People

Mr Matt Rathney-Quinn

Scottish • Director • 53 Years Old

Current
Ms Linda Rathney-Quinn

British • Company Secretary •

Current
 

Latest Financials

February 2014 Accounts
Net Worth (2008 – 2014)
2008200920102011201220132014-3K-1.5K01.5K

Cash In Bank

£0

Current Liabilities

£-7k

+£0 (0%)

vs previous year

Employees

Unreported

Total Assets

£3.92k

-£2.14k (35.29%)

vs previous year

Turnover

Unreported

Net Worth

£-3.08k

+£2.14k (225.32%)

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2 years ago 28 Feb 2014

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New Accounts Submitted

3 years ago 28 Feb 2013

Annual Return Submitted

3 years ago 20 Feb 2013

New Accounts Submitted

4 years ago 29 Feb 2012

Annual Return Submitted

4 years ago 20 Feb 2012

New Accounts Submitted

5 years ago 28 Feb 2011

Annual Return Submitted

5 years ago 20 Feb 2011

New Accounts Submitted

6 years ago 28 Feb 2010

Annual Return Submitted

6 years ago 20 Feb 2010

New Accounts Submitted

7 years ago 28 Feb 2009

Annual Return Submitted

7 years ago 20 Feb 2009

New Accounts Submitted

8 years ago 29 Feb 2008

Annual Return Submitted

8 years ago 20 Feb 2008

New Secretary Linda Appointed

9 years ago 20 Feb 2007

New Director Matt Rathney-quinn Appointed

9 years ago 20 Feb 2007

Company Incorporated

9 years ago 20 Feb 2007

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Additional Information

Standard Industrial Classification (SIC)

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Part Satisfied
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Total Charges
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Accounts Reference Date
29/02
Latest Accounts
28 February 2014   (1 year 8 months ago)
Next Accounts Due
30 November 2015   (less than 1 month left)
Accounts Category
Micro-Entity accounts
Banker
Unreported
Accountant
Unreported

Returns

Latest Returns
20 February 2015   (8 months ago)
Next Returns Due
19 March 2016   (4 months left)

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28/02/2014
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Annual Accounts (AA)

28/02/13 Total Exemption Small
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Annual Accounts (AA)

29/02/12 Total Exemption Small
Filed on 29 Feb 2012 4 pages DOWNLOAD (£0.95)
Annual Accounts (AA)

28/02/2011
Filed on 28 Feb 2011 7 pages DOWNLOAD (£0.95)
Annual Accounts (AA)

28/02/2010
Filed on 28 Feb 2010 4 pages DOWNLOAD (£0.95)

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Annual Return (AR01)

20/02/2015
Filed on 20 Feb 2015 4 pages DOWNLOAD (£0.95)
Annual Return (AR01)

20/02/14 Full List
Filed on 20 Feb 2014 4 pages DOWNLOAD (£0.95)
Annual Return (AR01)

20/02/13 Full List
Filed on 20 Feb 2013 4 pages DOWNLOAD (£0.95)
Annual Return (AR01)

20/02/12 Full List
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Annual Return (AR01)

20/02/2011
Filed on 20 Feb 2011 4 pages DOWNLOAD (£0.95)

Filing History

Change Of Directors Details (CH01)

23/03/2010
Filed on 23 Mar 2010 2 pages DOWNLOAD (£0.95)
New Incorporation Documents (NEWINC)

20/02/2007
Filed on 20 Feb 2007 18 pages DOWNLOAD (£0.95)

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DOWNLOADED 09-Nov-2015

WHICH SEEMS TO INDICATE THIS COMPANY OF MATT QUINN’S IS A MORIBUND/FAILED COMPANY WORTH -£3,084

FROM: https://www.endole.co.uk/company/SC316846/matt-quinn-ltd

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Wherever one trips over this sad little man he is in the midst of a fight with someone, where he and the truth seem strangers as he invents his fantasies by stretching slivers of half truth to draw his extreme and often malicious conclusions, to suit his bullying and abusive fantasies

QUINN, Matt 06

Fantasies such as:

Council may go to law to block a disgruntled resident’s website

A SCOTTISH council is considering legal action to stop a disgruntled resident broadcasting to the world via the Internet that his village is a hellish haven for criminality.Matt Rathney-Quinn has opened a website comparing life in his street in the West Lothian village of Addiewell to “a scene from a junk movie set in the ghettos of New York”.

The website – called “Addiewell: A Total Hell-hole” – features photographs of young people allegedly throwing stones at Mr Rathney-Quinn’s home. Other images apparently show young people drinking alcohol in the street, bullying children and using mobile phones to alert each other to approaching police cars.

“Life is a living hell here,” Mr Rathney-Quinn writes. “Made so by the routine abuse of drugs and alcohol and the endemic anti-social behaviour displayed by the locals. Our personal safety is at risk where we live here. We are not able to walk the streets around our homes. Even running out of milk means a two-mile drive instead of a 200-yard walk to the local shops.”

For some time, Mr Rathney-Quinn has asked to be moved from an area which, he says, locals call “Skid Row”. He claims the local council has done nothing about his complaints.

He apologises to law-abiding citizens tarred by his accusations, but says to the anti-social elements: “This site exposes you for what you are, a vile cancer which has brought a once proud community to this point.” He concludes: “I have never in my life seen a level of violence, criminality and sociopathic behaviour as I have witnessed in this tiny hamlet of 1,300 people. After this, Easterhouse [a Glasgow housing estate] seems like sweet suburbia.”

This novel method of lambasting difficult neighbours has caused uproar in Addiewell, according to West Lothian Council. “We are considering the legal position,” said a spokesman. “Addiewell is a respectable community with decent, hard-working people who have been deeply upset by the allegations made on this website.”

However, although the website names an individual councillor who may be able to sue for defamation, experts suggest it may otherwise be impossible to suppress it. The police, who receive fulsome praise on the website, say they are not planning to take any action.

The website is at http:// freehomepages.com/addiewell

The web site quoted has been removed!
To view the original article CLICK HERE

Perhaps the following item explainst his bitter, toxic and inadequate behaviour as a social misfit and habitual bully – the lack of a sound male role model can have a very damaging effect on some boys and, as he concedes, his Mother was untrustworthy and far from stable – genetics have a far greater input than many would wish to believe:

From: “The Falcon Glen, TFGTV” 
Subject: Frank J Quinn of Springburn, Glasgow, Scotland
Date: (No, or invalid, date.)Dear ‘cousins’I’ve just discovered the list here and this is my first posting….I hope someone out there on the Quinn list can help me with what has been a
lifelong search without any results so far.I was born Matthew Francis Quinn on July 22nd 1962 in Glasgow Scotland. My
parents had married young and unfortunately split when I was very small and
I’ve been trying seriously to find my Father, Francis (Frank) James Quinn,
now since turning 21, some 16 years ago.It has to be said that, looking over the years, my Mother was and is not
the most stable or reasonable of people. I can well understand why my
Father felt driven way and she certainly has made every effort to ensure
that I don’t find him ..even feeding me a pack of lies as to my Paternal
family’s original location, work backgrounds and even forenames.

What I do know is than none of what happened is my fault, and I need my
Father in my life. Presumably I have uncles, aunts cousins ..maybe even
half Brother and Sisters, all of whom are a part of me, and I a part of
them.

So far I’ve been very unlucky and I’ve now even turned to the rather
desperate measure of Emailing every Frank Quinn I can find

I have very little knowledge of my father though I do believe that he was
trying to keep in touch, My Mother though destroyed any and all letters or
cards from him.

I do know my father was ambitious, intelligent and was involved in
Electro-Mechanical engineering of some sort. He was a weighing machine
mechanic, working for Avery, when I was born and studying then for an ONC
in Electrical Engineering. I’m told (by my Maternal Uncle) he worked for
the South of Scotland Electricity Board, first at Cambuslang and later at
Kilmarnock..

The family came from the Springburn area of Glasgow ..somewhere near
Barmulloch Road, they may have moved to Cumbernauld or East Kilbride at
some point…

There is also some suggestion (although I have reason to believe this to be
inaccurate) that at least one of my Father’s Brothers ..and possibly my
Father himself, emmigrated to Canada.

I am not a crank, just someone with a big empty gap which I need to fill.
Being in my position is very difficult, one’s sense of identity is
incomplete and, should I be fortunate enough to find my Dad we have a lot
of catching up to do….

If you can offer any clue whatsoever, however slight or vague, please
please get in touch… I’ve started up a sort of ‘diary’ of my search at
www.powow.com/frankquinn,

The web site quoted no longer functions – perhaps he found out facts he didn’t want to know or his so called ‘cousins’ rejected him for the odious little man he proves to be when you search his behaviour, not what people say about him, on Google!

A clear example of his sel;f important style of snivelling and bullying , as he shifts his position and tries to justify his behaviour can be found, with many examples, at:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/04/false-flag-is-starting

You can draw your own conclusions – have held the odious, untrustworth little man in contempt for several years now and have seen nothing to make me change my opinion. I was, and still am, astonished that he ever did hold a position of any influence over students in an educational establishment, as he did – sadly it speaks volumes of his employers and the probity of the establishment!

It is interesting to note that Matthew Frank Quinn aka Matt Rathney Quinn has registered yet another company of no value worthy of note viz.:

PENTLAND FILM AND TELEVISION LTD

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PENTLAND FILM AND TELEVISION LTD
15A SMITHY BRAE
KIRKNEWTON
SCOTLAND
EH27 8AQ
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Company Registration No.:
SC538651
Incorporation Date:
23 Jun 2016 (15 Days old)
Financial Year End:
30 Jun
Capital:
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This does rather smack of the addage of the ‘notorious whore moving to a new town and starting as a virgin all over again’, Matt Quinn has a series of companies seemingly failing at doing the same thing – has his reputation sunk so low that he needs to use a new identity – to be honest that would not surprise me but to start such a company with such low expectations as to only invest £88 as its capital value would seem to show how highly he holds his own reputation and expectations.

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ANONYMOUS Threats & Cowardly Fantasies & Inaccuracy

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/03/2015

.

This site was first posted on, on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of sexual abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others amongst their perverse cult following.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I unreservedly apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE at CLICK HERE

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ANONYMOUS Threats
& Cowardly Fantasies & Inaccuracy

________________________________________
From: Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net>
Sent: 03 March 2015 20:56
To: Greg Lance-Watkins
Subject: Doubt you’ll get to 70, Greggie

You ignoring my emails, coward? When you insulted Sarah Jane, you fucking
asshole, you crossed the line and signed your own one. We ignored your
lies about her husband, a great leader, whom she married only out of love,
something a diseased evil paedophilic rapist like yourself (and your
cowardly grandfather, if the rumours have substance) would know sod all
about. We have bided our time and now decided what to do, how to do it,
and who will do it to you. You are a mental gnat, a menace to decent
society, a fantasist and a waste of carbon. Even fuckwad Ukip wouldn’t
have you, and that takes some doing. Sandhurst and Cambridge, don’t make
me laugh. For an attention-junkie like you, some might think you are going
to enjoy the first part of your shafting. Oh no you won’t. All those about
whom you have obsessively lied and smeared, is it mere hundreds or now is
it now thousands, are going to give the Glos constab a truly monumental
list of suspects, and a lot of entertainment while going through it. Your
perversion and deceit will serve as your epitaph. Our fear is that justice
might be cheated by your ailments, put upon your head by Divine will, so
we are not going to delay. We’re not going to let The Royal Gwent steal
what is our just due. We know you won’t dare to put this on your website.
When it comes, remember what you wrote about an honourable lady and her
brave husband. Shake in fear, GLW, for the implied word was ‘warrant’.
Till the next time, loser.

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From: Greg Lance-Watkins

Hi,

little wonder you are too ashamed to put your name to your drivel!

Who do you claim is Sarah Jane?

Who do you believe to be her husband?

May I suggest you seek counseling as your vitriolic rant is clearly a product either of your twisted fantasies or you are singularly gullible!

The fantasies you have invented are childish in the extreme and clearly without foundation or evidence merely distortions and inventions of your sick mind – seek help before you end up harming yourself or others with your fantasies.

Not ONE of your distorted claims can you substantiate as without exception you are wrong and a liar.

You are seemingly endeavouring to compete with the sick minded liars and fantasists like the sad sick Matt Quinn and his little band of perverted liars.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.
http://GregLanceWatkins.com

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To deal item by item with your fantasies and cowardly threats:

You ignoring my emails, coward?

I rarely give credence to the maunderings of those too cowardly to put their name to their fantasies.

When you insulted Sarah Jane,

Who is Sarah Jane? I know of no such insult as you claim – nor any such individual!

you fucking asshole, you crossed the line and signed your own one.

To gratuitously use such language demeans any point you were trying to make and shows your threat to be even more cowardly.

We ignored your lies about her husband, a great leader, whom she married only out of love,

As I have absolutely no idea who you are talking about your comment is clearly some sick fantasy of yours.

something a diseased evil paedophilic rapist like yourself

What a silly comment as you can clearly provide absolutely no evidence to support your dishonest claim.

(and your cowardly grandfather, if the rumours have substance) would know sod all about.

Well that is below the belt as both my Grandfathers died over 40 years ago and one was a Police Sargeant through the war without any blemish on his character and the other was a decorated Old Contemptible in the Gloucestershire Regiment who led a long and honourable life. Your rumour invention mill is clearly demented!

We have bided our time and now decided what to do, how to do it,
and who will do it to you. You are a mental gnat, a menace to decent
society, a fantasist and a waste of carbon.

How embarrassing for you top found your decision making on lies and fantasies!

Even fuckwad Ukip wouldn’t
have you, and that takes some doing.

I never made ANY attempt to join Ukip and never sought election with or to Ukip – so yet another fact wrong!

Sandhurst and Cambridge, don’t make
me laugh.

Sandhurst Intake 38 Gaza Company 1965
Cambridge – a boarder at Kings from about 1954 > until I went as a boarder to Clifton, Bristol.

For an attention-junkie like you, some might think you are going
to enjoy the first part of your shafting. Oh no you won’t. All those about whom you have obsessively lied and smeared, is it mere hundreds or now is it now thousands,

I have NEVER lied or deliberately misled anyone regarding anyone and never once has anyone shown me to have lied about anyone.

are going to give the Glos constab a truly monumental
list of suspects, and a lot of entertainment while going through it.

I shall leave you to ponder at your fate if thwe Police choose to track you down.

Your perversion and deceit will serve as your epitaph.

Perversion and deceit that are a product of your own sick mind and that you are too cowardly to show a single proven example of, as you have none.

Our fear is that justice might be cheated by your ailments, put upon your head by Divine will, so we are not going to delay.

It is clear you have much to fear as you hide as a coward in anonymity, spouting your vile fantasies to look important!

We’re not going to let The Royal Gwent steal what is our just due. We know you won’t dare to put this on your website.

Wrong yet again! In fact you seem not to have a single fact to back your odious rant.

When it comes, remember what you wrote about an honourable lady and her brave husband.

I haven’t a clue who you are alluding to nor have I EVER written about a husband and wife without substantiation.

Shake in fear, GLW, for the implied word was ‘warrant’.

I don’t think I’ll bother – I shall leave the readers of this blog to judge as they will see clearly that you are a foul mouthed, ill informed, abusive and dishonest fantasist.

Till the next time, loser.

A cowardly end from a confused and misled fantasist.

if the rumours have substance

It is self evident that NONE of your rumours and claims have substance!
Do save yourself the effort of sending more of your vile and inaccurate fantasies – as they will be most unlikely to be read let alone graced with debunking, as you have proved to be wrong on ALL counts.

UPDATE 08:35hrs. 04-Mar-2015.

I have received this response in my InBox having eMailed a copy of my posting to the dishonest & cowardly little chap who tries to hide behind ‘Anonymous’.

Microsoft Outlook <MicrosoftExchange329e71ec88ae4615bbc36ab6ce41109e@btconnect.onmicrosoft.com>
Wed 04/03/2015 03:57
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Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net>;
To send this message again, click here.
foto.nl1.torservers.net rejected your message to the following email addresses:
Anonymous (anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net)
The email address wasn’t found at the destination domain. It might be misspelled or it might not exist any longer. Try retyping the address and resending the message.
If that doesn’t work, contact the recipient (by phone or instant messaging, for example) to check that the address is correct. If the problem continues, forward this message to your email admin.
For Email Administrators
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foto.nl1.torservers.net gave this error:
<anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net>: Recipie

He would of course prove very easy to track down should I wish the Police to identify the odious little inadequate.

 

My computer, having a better recall system for trivia than I have has tracked down a Sarah, who may well be known as Sarah Jane, with whom I have communicated I was misled by reference to her unfortunate husband of whom I seem to have no record, perhaps because he was too ashamed of his comments to risk identification, as with the cowardly ‘Anonymous’ above.

 

You may asses for yourself just what a vile young woman she is from her vile comments, which I posted at CLICK HERE together with my response to her odious behaviour.

 

I also have reason to believe she is the same individual who phoned me one morning using obscene and abusive language and befouling the name & reputation of an unfortunate young lad who had managed to get killed, by my house, whilst travelling to work late one morning – the details so far are at the same location and I now await the Coroner’s Court judgement at the inquest when it is available – however its findings seem all too likely, as has been made fairly clear in some areas of social media.

 

In respect for the dead and injured and their true friends and relatives I have declined to pass on any judgement until the Court findings are made public and have also not published anonymous comments that were obscene or offensive, for the same reasons.

 

Also for the same reasons I have refrained from posting this posting on the site concerned and have ensured that the names of the victims of the accident are not included here, thus avoiding embarrassment for the relatives and actual friends of those victims.

 

As the source of much of the dishonest and distorted drivel from ‘Anonymous’ clearly was concocted from corrupt lies published by Matt Quinn and others relative to the Hollie Greig Scam I feel it appropriate to use this blog to correct their sick fantasies.

 

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More Facts + A 3rd. Party Informed View Of The Hollie Greig Scam

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 23/02/2015

More Facts + A 3rd. Party Informed View Of The Hollie Greig Scam

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This site was first posted on, on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of sexual abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others amongst their perverse cult following.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I unreservedly apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE at CLICK HERE

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Hi,

I believe it is apposite some 5 years after the irrefutable fact that the claims of Anne Mackie (nee Greig) and Robert Green her supporter that Anne’s daughter Hollie Greig had been sexually abused by a long list of men and women, including family, police and members of the Judiciary in Scotland, were utterly without substance, plausible or admissible evidence or any measure of corroboration, it is time to revisit one of the best 3rd. party comments on the subject.

The list of names, which they provided, was in written form and was distributed at a public meeting in Edinburgh that had been organised for them by Stuart Usher; a list which subsequently I misguidedly published for them on the internet, based upon the lies of Anne & Robert supported by Stuart Usher.

I do believe this excellent article by Anna Raccoon is worth revisiting and distributing as a means by which to further debunk the criminal exploitation of the unfortunate Hollie Greig who fortunately would seem to lack the intellectual capacity to understand the evil being promoted regarding her by numerous scoundrels and also the plain batty!

I trust this will give a greater understanding to those seeking the truth, based upon facts! My thanks to Anna Raccoon for the clarity of her article the facts contained therein would seem to tally with my understanding of the exploitation of Hollie Greig.

 

The only real abuse meted out on Hollie Greig would seem to be that which her own Mother has invented and widely promoted with her abiding allie Robert green and the likes of Brian Gerrish, David Icke, Belinda McKenzie and a host of other low lifes together with the batty and the gullible.

 

The sole saving grace being that Hollie clearly lacks the intellect to understand what is being done in her exploitation and the numerous perverts who are most gleefully following the discusion of her alleged abuse and intimate medical details for their own sexual gratification – not to mention vituperative fantasists like Matt Quinn who weave their fantasies and fictions to act as guru to the gormless no doubt deriving feelings of power and authority from their perversions as they all make the world a safer place for the paedophiles and perverts they pretend to denounce.

 

A safer place for paedophiles and perverts because decent folk who might well strive to expose such vile crimes are frightened off by what they see from the liars, rogues and rascals who so eagerly follow such cases and berate anyone so resolutely who dares to expose the actual crimes.

 

Few have either the confidence or the luxury to be able to shrug off the lies that inadequates like Matt Quinn, Belinda McKenzie, David Icke, Brian Gerrish and their odious ilk are wont to weave to satiate their desire for profit and/or notoriety amongst their simple minded followers.

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Here is Anna RACCOON’s Excellent Summary of Hollie Greig scam, together with many questions, comments and answers:.

Robert Green – Hollie Greig

by Anna Raccoon on May 31, 2010

I apologise for the length of this piece. There are a lot of facts to be laid out.

I would also ask before you tell me that I have left this or that fact out that you refer to my original blog post on the subject – I have tried not to repeat myself here.

Comments will be open, especially if you have factual evidence to bring forward. If you come here just to hiss and spit, and treat me to some of the vile and venal abuse that has been bandied around in this case – unless it is especially witty or has some intrinsic merit, it will be deleted.

I have written before on the subject of Robert Green and his ‘campaign’ on behalf of a young female sufferer of Down’s syndrome who, he maintains, was the subject of a vicious and sustained series of rapes by both men and women.

What interests me about this particular case is the fundamental mismatch between, on one hand, the passionate campaign that has raged on Face-book and, on the other, the embarrassingly sparse ‘evidence’ on which it was based.

It has taken me some time to peel away the layers of ‘internet truth’ and to arrive at the essential facts, such as they are, that do exist.

Anne, the girl’s Mother, originally contacted two men to publicise her story. ALL the information that is on the Internet, ALL the firmly held beliefs, ALL the ‘alleged’ evidence, was given to those two men, and emerged into the world via the various means THEY took to publicise the case.

Neither of them was Robert Green. He came into the story later.

Let us take Stuart Usher first. Stuart, a part time Hot Dog salesman runs an organisation called Scotland against Crooked Lawyers and has done for some 10 years or so. It has a website www.sacl.org

Stuart has ‘named and shamed’ some 140 lawyers and judges based in Scotland on his web site regarding a variety of alleged offences, including paedophilia, who, in his opinion, are ‘crooked’. He cites, with great pride, that none of them have ever thought to sue him. Whether this is because his accusations are accurate and they are hanging their head in shame, or because they felt that giving more publicity to wild accusations whilst suing a Hot Dog salesman was possibly counter productive is a matter of opinion.

Still, Stuart Usher was a first hand confident of Anne, the girl’s Mother, and presumably had access to concrete evidence of her claims. Unfortunately, Stuart has decided to withdraw from the case ‘to spend more time with his family’ – as you will find, we end up with a list of people who were ‘in at the beginning’ who have mysteriously melted away.

Tuesday, May 18, 2010
Stuart Usher to Paul Drockton

Paul
I have had increased pressure from my family recently with regard to my efforts to help other people. In a nutshell they feel the time has come for me to divert my efforts to support them instead. I have agreed to this as they have suffered badly over the years and I now feel the time has come for me to concentrate my efforts on them.

 

Mr Usher did not disappear before recording a radio interview which is available on the Internet.

You require patience and dedication to listen to it all the way through. The amateur ‘disc jockey’ suffers interminable technical problems for the first half hour, and after three quarters of an hour of attempting to make sense of Mr Usher’s words, the disc jockey returns to playing some excruciating hard rock…..I nearly lost the will to live, but I was determined to learn at first hand precisely what the claims were.

Mr Usher would tell you that Anne’s daughter was repeatedly raped at the ‘house of Sheriff B’s sister, Evelyn’. This is casualty number one in the search for truth. Sheriff B simply does not have a sister Evelyn. He may well have a dog called Evelyn, a cat even, but no sister.

These things matter when you are basing a campaign on your right to publicise ‘the truth’.

Mr Usher would also tell you that Anne and her daughter were forced to ‘flee Scotland’ following the ‘murder’ of her brother Roy. Roy had apparently been ‘repeatedly battered over the head with an axe handle’ before being pushed into a car which was set alight in an arson attack.

Now one of the claims which circulates on the Internet is that this unfortunate death was ‘hushed up’ by the authorities, and described as ‘suicide’ when it was murder – the implication is usually that Roy was murdered as a direct result of Anne having laid information with the police a few days earlier. I have repeatedly been told that it was never investigated. Not true.

Whatever the Police investigation amounted to, there was an in depth investigation by an experienced journalist. One Mark Daly of the BBC. Mark Daly is the journalist who according to Robert Green was ‘bullied by his bosses’ into dropping a proposed documentary about the case. This version alternates with one which says that he was silenced by a ‘D’ notice. Mark spoke out on the Face Book group.

“I have been involved in some of the biggest investigations into corruption, racism, murder and child sex abusers broadcast in the UK over the past ten years of my career, and the suggestion that I would be complicit in a cover up of important journalism is insulting and deeply misguided.”
“After careful consideration some time later (before we had filmed anything), we, the programme team, decided we couldn’t proceed with the story. It became clear that the wider allegations that were being made would be impossible to verify, and indeed we had concerns about the veracity of many of them. On that basis, we made a professional decision not to proceed. As journalists, we are not in a position to pick and choose which allegations we want to run or believe, and the vast majority of these allegations were, in our opinion, un-provable. There are few more serious allegations one can make about a person than to call them a paedophile, and for that reason, the evidence has to be of the utmost quality. And in this case, I’m afraid it fell far short of this hurdle.”

You can hear Mark Daly answering his critics here.

Exit Mark Daly – but not before he had helpfully asked for and received from Grampian Police, the autopsy report for Roy Grieg. There the evidence that Roy had been ‘repeatedly battered about the head with an axe handle’ so frequently cited, melts away to become a ‘contusion’ on his head. Contusion being the medical term for a common or garden bruise. The ‘broken ribs’ may well owe more to the strenuous efforts – efforts which earned him a medal from the Royal Humane Society – of a passing oil rig worker who pulled Roy Grieg from his car during a filthy storm and in the middle of the night and gave him CPR in an effort to save his life.

Mark Daly had also uncovered something which directly contradicted Anne’s claim that there could be no truth in the Coroner’s verdict that her brother committed suicide – for he had ‘no reason to commit suicide’. Daly discovered that Roy Greig had been suspended from his job amid allegations of a substantial sum of money missing. He had recently travelled to Glasgow to obtain legal assistance in respect of these matters from his union.

These things matter when you are basing a campaign on your right to publicise ‘the truth’.

 

Two witnesses down, but fear not. We have more. Next up is Greg Lance-Watkins. Lance-Watkins has spent some 30 years campaigning on behalf of abused children. He runs an ‘enabling’ web site, which helps those children to have their own web site and tell their story under the umbrella of his main web site. Anne approached him and asked him to publicise her daughter’s story. She explained that she had no internet skills and it was agreed that he would operate the http://stolenkids-hollie.blogspot.com and write it as though it was Hollie telling her own story. Those who claim that Hollie is a competent witness for any trial, and cite as evidence the fact that she ‘willingly’ tells her ‘own’ story on her ‘own’ web site, please take note. Mr Lance-Watkins freely admits that the words are his, using information coming from Hollie’s Mother. In his lay opinion, Hollie has a mental age of under 10.

Lance-Watkins has been in this ‘business’ for many years, and he has had some success at obtaining justice for abused children. He is, like Mark Daly, the journalist, fully aware of the necessity for concrete evidence and strongly advised Anne not to court publicity until such time as they had gathered whatever documentary evidence they could. He was assured it would be forthcoming and was available.

Eventually he managed to gain sight of the autopsy report which was cited as evidence that Anne’s brother had been wickedly battered about the head and murdered. He was slightly non plussed to discover that this only amounted to a ‘contusion’ and even more non plussed to learn of the evidence regarding a possible crime in Roy’s workplace, despite having repeatedly pressed Anne for possible reasons for Roy’s suicide.

Then he pressed Anne for the mysterious medical evidence that showed how Hollie had been brutally anally and vaginally raped for 10 years by this paedophile ring. She finally gave him this document.

It is difficult to read, it is a scanned version of a very bad folded photocopy. With diligence and Photoshop’s enlargement facilities, it is possible however.

Hollie was born at the end of 1979 and here we have a Doctor informing another Doctor that at some time prior to 1992 (the date of the letter) Hollie’s parents had jointly enquired as to the need for contraception for their daughter. It was alleged that Hollie had been making sexual overtures to other children within her special needs facility.

I do not propose to further discuss Hollie’s medical affairs; she is entitled to a darn sight more privacy than she has received so far. Suffice it to say, that those who rest their case that Hollie was ‘sexually abused’ in any form on the supposed ‘medical evidence’, would be well advised to read carefully this letter that Anne Greig claims is the evidence. You will not find one iota of evidence from the Doctor who had intimately examined her that this was so. What you will find is that at one point in her life, Hollie had suffered from a minor yet common ailment which can be transmitted sexually – though that is by no means the only way in which you can acquire it.

One could put this paucity of substantive evidence down to yet another example of the authorities ‘covering up’ the abuse of Hollie – except that this is the very document on which Anne Greig rests her case.

Lance-Watkins now reluctantly admits that he is in the embarrassing position of having been ‘duped’ . He has not precisely joined the ranks of those who have walked away from the story, he is too much of a professional for that, however, he has retired to the sidelines and thrown out an open invitation to the thousands of members of ‘Holly’s Army’ who are fighting for ‘Justice for Hollie’ to step forward with any concrete evidence before he puts his reputation at risk any more.

Predictably he has been roundly abused by all concerned for this. The myth and fallacy that abounds on the Internet is too deeply entrenched for anyone to take cautious heed of the man who spoke for Holly ceasing to speak for Holly – it is ‘obvious’ that he is part of the conspiracy protecting these mythical government figures, either that or he has been ‘bought off’ by strange figures from MI5. The truth that he is no more prepared to put his reputation on the line without evidence than was Mark Daly is too bitter a pill for them to swallow.

 

Which leaves us with the Facebook Group. The home base of Holly’s 27,000 strong army. Or does it?

For you see Paul Phillips and his girlfriend Plum, who set up that Facebook Group and urged supporters to publicise this horrendous story so successfully – well they too have retired from the fray ‘to spend more time with their family’ – as has Tom George from ScotsVInjustice, another man with lots of experience in these cases who sadly doesn’t have a family, but still feels he can do something more with his time.

The Facebook Group was closed down, but not before some horrendous mudslinging as the original publicists of the story withdrew one by one. I have never before seen such venal and vindictive commentators.

I have come across many people over the past year whilst being heavily involved in Hollie’s case – some who are sincere and genuine people and others who have obvious ulterior motives and should really question why they became involved and whose interests they were really trying to further. I would like to state publicly here that everything stated by Pabs and Plum above is all factual and I regard them both as sincere and genuine people whose motives in Hollie’s case, like mine, were purely altruistic and their detractors should be thoroughly ashamed to have denounced them in the very malicious way they have. They are both good human beings and simply did not deserve the vilification that has spewed forth their way over recent days and weeks.

I have other very serious, sad and tragic cases I am vigorously pursuing presently against the authorities in Edinburgh and, yes, Aberdeen too and I am committed to fulfilling my obligations to the people concerned. I hope my rapidly declining health does not negate me having to pass these cases on to others to help with and I can see some kind of satisfactory resolution for the individuals concerned.

Tom
Edinburgh
ScotsVInjustice@aol.com

So far we have lost the medical evidence of horrendous sexual abuse, lost the medical evidence that Anne’s brother was murdered, lost the experienced campaigners against paedophilia that we started off with, shed several experienced journalists along the way – what are we left with?

We have Robert Green, would be journalist and broadcaster, who wishes to publicise the names of the people he says that Hollie says abused her, some of who like Sheriff B’s sister, simply don’t exist. We have Paul Drockton, broadcasting from somewhere several thousand miles away having never met any of the people involved. We have a newspaper in Palestine still prepared to print these allegations against British government figures – oh and we have a new Facebook group containing all the people who would far rather believe that there is a conspiracy here, than to face the fact that all the people who started this campaign have now faded away into the shadows – awaiting something more concrete than the wild accusations thrown around by a woman who has been tormented by grief and difficulties in life.

Fortunately, we also have the figure of Paula Morris in Hollie’s home town of Shrewsbury, a sensible Social Worker, who is currently looking into the welfare of this deeply vulnerable young woman and whether she is capable of making an informed decision as to whether she should be paraded on radio and Internet as the poster girl for the hysterical Hollie’s Army.

There is considerable sexual abuse of young women (and men) with Down’s syndrome. It is an entrenched problem. It is invariably carried out by those who have easy access to these young people. Fathers, brothers, uncles, both real and phoney, bus drivers, care attendants. In some rare cases, and they are rare compared to the bulk of disgracefully mundane cases of sexual abuse, they will include figures from other walks of life. Yes, even Judges, and policemen.

What Hollie’s Army have succeeded in doing is gaining wide spread recognition of the apparent ‘fact’ – without any evidence – that paedophilia is part and parcel of a government conspiracy, rather than an event which is all around you every day, next door to you even. That it is a celebrity vice. That may please their desire for publicity. It does nothing for the thousands of Down’s Children who need to be protected.

Perhaps all 27,000 of Holly’s Army might care to get themselves CRB checked – those of them who are able to pass such a check, for sure there will be paedophiles amongst these groups – where else will they find constant discussions of the finer points of sexual abuse? And when they have passed their checks, they might care to volunteer to help protect these deeply vulnerable individuals. They will find it most rewarding.

Perhaps a tad boring compared to the glamour of demanding the right to libel most of the Scottish political establishment on the basis of zero evidence and wild accusations.

Tagged as: abuse, Anne Greig, hollie, mark daly, robert green, usher

Ms Raccoon lives in the Monbazillac area of South West France, renowned for its fine wines and gourmet food, so she frequently finds better things to do than sit in front of a computer all morning. She is liable to take off traveling at a moment’s notice. Consequently this blog only gets updated these days when it is raining – and it doesn’t rain very often round here…

{ 78 comments }

1 Old Holborn May 31, 2010 at 15:14

Now you’ve gone and done it

2 Joe Public May 31, 2010 at 15:49

A complex issue Anna. Smoke & Mirrors in abundance.

3 JuliaM May 31, 2010 at 15:55

Good grief, I just revisited that original thread. It sure went south after a while, didn’t it?

4 spartan_69 May 31, 2010 at 16:24

l’ve come across many conspiracy groups/individuals and found all use the ‘prove we’re wrong’ approach. ln fact it is the very soul of their existance because a conspiracy can never be ‘proved wrong’ . You cannot put forth factual evidence as this is deemed part of the conspiracy itself, the facts have been manipulated or manufactured say the conspiracy brigade.

l’m afraid that you have now become part of the conspiracy yourself in the eyes of the ’27,000′ and others. l hope you are prepared for an onslaught of abuse, for you have put yourself in their crosshairs.

l doubly hope that it never materialises though. l wish you well.

5 RantinRab May 31, 2010 at 17:06

I may have touched upon this story a while back at mines, I cannot remember.

I have been asked to publicise Hollie’s ‘case’ a few times over the past year or so. Tempting as it was to have a pop at the Scottish establishment my spider sense was tingling. I let it be.

I’m glad I did.

6 Bluebell May 31, 2010 at 17:34

Quite honestly, I don’t know enough about this to form an opinion but the link that you give is for the Saskatchewan Association of Community Living, http://www.sacl.org, and not as you state Scotland against Crooked Lawyers. In a case where there is some doubt about facts, please ensure your own are correct.

7 Anna Raccoon May 31, 2010 at 17:48

Thanks Bluebell, I shall check the link – probably my typing!

8 Anna Raccoon May 31, 2010 at 17:52

Bluebell – try this one not that it will do you any good – seems the entire web site has run for the hills…….http://www.sacl.info/

9 JuliaM June 1, 2010 at 04:55

“…seems the entire web site has run for the hills…”

That’s an encouraging sign, isn’t it?

10 Eleanor May 31, 2010 at 17:49

Well done, Anna. More people agree with you than you might think.

Whether or not the allegations have any basis in fact, is irrelevant. There is no proof. And if the abuse was as long standing and as horrific as has been suggested, then one would expect to find something, however small. Instead of which, this child is being abused by the very people who purport to protect her.

11 Garibaldi May 31, 2010 at 19:15

WORD PERFECT. Both you and GLW (along with several others) are the absolute voices of reason – do not stop using your voice Anna. Thankyou for speaking for a growing number of people who are genuinely concerned for Hollie Greig’s wellbeing. Poster Girl? She absolutely is, and it’s verging on a criminal act. Please keep going.

12 English Viking May 31, 2010 at 19:52

Anna,

Good piece, which more than highlights the absolute necessity for evidence before making these kind of accusations.

Sorry to be picky, but you use the word ‘venal’ a couple of times. Perhaps you mean ‘visceral’?

13 Anna Raccoon May 31, 2010 at 21:42

English Viking – thank-you – I meant venomous actually!

14 English Viking May 31, 2010 at 22:05

Doesn’t matter, still a good piece.

15 ruth allan May 31, 2010 at 20:51

May God forgive you for this coverup.

16 Love conquers all May 31, 2010 at 21:00

Well He obviously doesn’t lose any sleep over paedophiles.

17 Greg_L-W. May 31, 2010 at 21:06

Hi,

It is good to see another voice of reason laying out the facts in a professional and forensic manner. Sadly there is absolutely no one providing EVIDENCE in a similarly responsible manner for it seems there is none!

My phone number, my address and my eMail are freely and readily available for ANYONE to provide EVIDENCE of abuse.

In this story to date the ONLY actual EVIDENCE of abuse that has come to light has been the very clear evidence that Hollie Greig, a very very vulnerable member of our society, has been most venally and distatefully publicly exploited and abused by:

Anne Greig her Mother who would seem to be off on a toot of her own but with NO EVIDENCE

Robert Green whose actions have been crass incompetent self serving and criminal, even shamefully naming and blaming his victims as he has NO EVIDENCE

Stuart Usher, who largely due to a distinct verbal communication impediment, has promoted his private grievences and unsubstantiated accusations as with his lurid sacl.info, yet has NO EVIDENCE

Yes there are a number of cunning and sly low lifes on NutJobTV, Bedroom Broadcast Conspirators and low distribution publishing who parade such cases – sandwiched between their sad exploitation of the weak minded and inadequate who have been sat on by life.

Those who wish to blame their own incompetence and failures (and of course their benefit cheques) on lizards, aliens, conDENSATION trails, abductions, Illuminati, FBI, Islam, CIA, immigrants, the bosses, Government, The Masons, Big Government, Common Purpose, Bigger Government, The KGB, Bohemian Grove, Mossad, The Nazis, the New World Order, bullets that bounce off windows, clicks on the phone from auto switching gear, MI5, black ops, The DVD, MI6, Martians, OLAF, secret globalists, The Queen, black helicopters, the Bush family, oil, peak oil, too much oil, lack of oil, UFOs and so on ad naseam.

NO the sad truth is life sat on you and was fairly hard going because you chose your GRANDPARENTS badly and have their genetics.

Sadly the exploitation of Hollie Greig, by the sad and the sick does not want FACTS to expose their conspiracy fantasies, but THEY HAVE NO EVIDENCE.

Fortunately Hollie would seem not to have sufficient mental accumen to understand she is being exploited and abused as she is paraded like an exhibit in a Barnum & Bailey show of freaks of the 1890s. The vicarious pleasure of those who would fail their CRBs must be huge!

nooccaR annA has exposed the exploiters and shown they have got it 100% wrong – first you provide THE EVIDENCE and then you seek Justice.

Approaching it backwards they have made criminals of themselves and shown they have NO EVIDENCE.

IF suddenly Anne Greig or Robert Green produce evidence then sadly it can only be EVIDENCE that they are liars as they have promised me AND OTHERS that we are aware of ALL the EVIDENCE they have.

I believe it is time that the duely funded authorities considered placing far greater supervision and care of Hollie Greig at the top of their priorities, considered medical attention for Anne Greig and prosecution of Robert Green.

It may well be apposite for The Court of Protection to investigate Hollie’s finances and how Anne has disbursed them!

I think that the story has yet further to run, so those deriving a vicarious pleasure from studying the sexual information and claimed abuse may still get their jollies – just as those who derived pleasure from fantasising over Roy Greig’s sad suicide can still get their kicks by issuing their sad death threats as they masturbate in their lonely bedrooms.

IF YOU have any EVIDENCE or need help, I have, as Ms. Raccoon states been exposing abuse since the 1950s!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

18 Put up or shut up! May 31, 2010 at 23:28

It is time that Mr Green and Ms Greig put up or shut up …

Show the world and your very deluded and duped followers this “damning evidence” that you claim to have to prove that Hollie was systematically and repeatedly sexually abused and violated by a “paedophile rape gang” in Aberdeen throughout the 1990s.

Why did Mr Green not take his opportunity when he had it back in February and March to get the case into the Scottish Courts? What do his very deluded followers know about that missed opportunity? Has he told them he could have exposed Hollie’s case in court but failed to do so?

Are Shropshire Social Services now doing a full vulnerable adult assessment to ascertain if Hollie is fully aware of the allegations made in her name and do they think she should be taken into care for her own protection and to avoid further public humiliation and exploitation on social network sites (Facebook), various blogs and in the alternative media radio and TV world?

Robert Green has done so much damage to many peoples lives and reputations now that he should be further restricted of his liberty and silenced for good … for the sake of Hollie and all those he has publicly named in this abomination of a case. Perhaps it is also time that his own mental state was fully and properly assessed by experts to determine his own sanity and reasoning.

Time the Scottish and English authorities took pragmatic action and end this charade once and for all …

19 P T Barnum June 1, 2010 at 00:09

Anna, you deserve great credit for this forensic disclosure of the campaign and its shaky foundations. While my own gut instinct told me that there was something very wrong in the way the story was being promulgated, and therefore probably with the story as well, none of us can say one way or the other if there is any substance to the claims of conspiracy. But what we can be clear about, in large part due to your efforts, is that we should be highly sceptical about the truth-status of the parental version, and the aims of the campaign as well.

Cui bono?

20 Greg_L-W. June 1, 2010 at 00:11

Hi,

Robert Green must be profoundly ashamed of the evil he has stirred up without ANY EVIDENCE.

For those who wish to see the depths of depravity these SCUM will sink to to try to discredit those who have exposed them:
http://stolenkids-hollie.blogspot.com/2010/05/sk-h217-now-look-how-scum-respond-to.html

Robert Green has most clearly stirred up a particularly evil claque of abusers and exploiters seeking their 15 minutes (well 2 possibly) minutes of onanism!

No wonder all the FB groups in their shame are plunging back into the slime under their stones and ‘going private’ like Gollom they do not fair well in the spotlight of truth!

Well done for exposing them M. Raccoon and others now we must try to keep tabs on them so they can not foment more witch hunts for their vicarious pleasure and gain!

So that they can not ruin the lives of more innocent victims and so that where possible they can be kept away from the vulnerable!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

21 Garibaldi June 1, 2010 at 06:49

Talking of Poster girl/boys, take a look at one of the MAIN Hollie Greig propagators; a self-confessed Genius with a microphone and tape machine in his spare room…this is the hard-core DJ (poor man’s Alex Jones god help us). This man apparently came along and offered his gold-plated services to Hollie’s Army **Cor Blimey I hope there are no gays in HOLLE’S army!!** This is the calibre of man they have chosen in a sense over the award winning journo Mark Daly.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=130400523643760&v=wall

Seriously…. so desperate, misinformed and misguided are this out of control shower, that they jump at any chance of broadcasting this poor wretched woman’s personal details on any old airwave in any old country by the first random disk jockey who sniffs them out and see it as a major breakthrough . Yet still they do not see the utter irony in what they do – that is, parade this vulnerable woman …. actually hang on there. Why not consider for a minute if Hollie’s physical form corresponded with her suggested mental age of say 8. Who would violate a little 8 year old girl ‘s human rights this way and NOT be stopped by the authorities? Come on Social Services, please do something here!

The trouble with groups such as this is that initially one is struck dumb with the horror of the ‘case’ (obviously) – Stage 1. Stage 2 is the feeling of comradeship and strength in numbers and the nirvana of feeling one has a chance to ‘nail the bastard paedos’ which is really quite seductive and satisfying. Stage 3 they are swept up into a thick froth of emotion, campaigning and rampaging …. fundamentally decent enough people (though undoubtedly many with their own agendas) at last with a solid opportunity to make a difference in the world. Fair enough, if the case they are fighting for is a strong one and has oodles of evidence. I think they are stuck now at the level of delirious denial – they poo-poo the likes of Mark Daly and instead choose to worship at the alter of Paul Drockton. They scurry away amongst themselves in hidden Facebook, unable to even consider another perspective like ferrets in a cage planning their big escape into the paradise where Justice for Hollie is a reality. …thanks to them and their leafleting on a Saturday afternoon.

I’m sorry to say that it’s at this point one would consider the possiblity that Hollie has taken a back seat….their own internal ‘told you so’ mantra becomes so utterly paramount, that the subject of and philosophy behind the campaign is shoved under the carpet somewhat. High as kites on their agendas, they are so blinkered that even if the case WAS brought to the highest court in the whole damn world with Ban Ki Moon pouring the tea and Bono and Sting providing the catering …even if here it was ripped to shreds and thrown out of court WHICH IT WOULD BE they would still soldier on regardless! They are gone, swept away with the fairies and merrily the woman’s mother is allowing this to happen. If they all had the strength of character (including the mum and Green) to step down now, there would I am sure be a Mexican Wave of Respect for their courage in doing so from all of us tortured observers of this dire affair.

Hollie Greig will continue as their poster girl and continue to be used by these spectacularly stupid people I’m afraid, until the ‘authorities’ bloody step in and do something about it.

22 Greg_L-W. June 1, 2010 at 07:28

Hi,

to assist >Garibaldi<:
Hollie Greig will continue as their poster girl and continue to be used by these spectacularly stupid people I

23 Garibaldi June 1, 2010 at 09:25

Consider the letter of support written and posted.

24 dave June 1, 2010 at 09:50

That was a good analysis of the case Anna. I’ve not got an axe to grind in this case but just want to see it all resolved. You didn’t explore some points that I’m still confused about.
Could you find out why Levy & McRae , the Scottish Justice Sec McAskill ‘s previous employer, are involved and who is paying them ?
Why Peter Watson is allowed to silence any talk of the case in the media ?
Why Lord Advocate Angiolini is allowed to take a role after her previous delays in similar court cases led to cases being thrown outof court. ? And who is paying for all her libel actions ?
Was it necessary to conduct a dawn raid on Mr Greens house ?
Why the court case is taking so long to be heard considering what happened with similar cases in the past that had to be kicked into the long grass.
Thanks

25 Little sis June 1, 2010 at 18:11

I echo Dave’s request. Its alright Anna and Greg LW shouting from the rooftops but they’re as guilty for not covering the bits that they can’t answer either. No one has a compleatly un clouded, un biased view on this case. Glw has an axe to grind, that is quite apparant from his bitter blogs…and to publish the Greigs address is surely the lowest of the low. And to say that that is what Anne Greig did with the alleged perpetrators…you don’t know that. You are as bad Anna and Greg because you’re feeding off all this too. As for the facts???? They aren’t all up here thats for sure. As for the alleged paedophiles…they don’t need you to champion them….they’re are doing a good job of protecting themselves I would say.

26 Subrosa June 1, 2010 at 10:25

Anna, most brave of you to approach this story again and with such professionalism. Several times I was asked to take it on board, but refused, as I have a personal interest in Down’s Syndrome children and did not want this young woman to undergo any more public display than necessary unless there was evidence.

Two matters in the case stopped me in my tracks. Firstly the mother’s comment that she had to ‘flee’ Aberdeen. I decided she chose to leave Aberdeen after reading her online publications. Secondly when I heard Robert Green implying in his video that the First Minister Alex Salmond was implicated, I looked into the matter. In Green’s video he says Hollie’s mother wrote to Alex Salmond and received no reply (thus Salmond’s silence was his guilty by association). That was untrue. Salmond replied to the mother within four weeks.

Of course agencies such as social services are not perfect, but in defence of Aberdeen, I wouldn’t say they were any worse there than in other areas of the UK. The Scottish legal system does require a shake up and is a small world. In some ways it’s a pity they do not publicly defend themselves against such allegations; in other ways their silence may be more beneficial to the young woman who I consider is being exploited.

27 DaveP June 1, 2010 at 11:56

There is now so much “information” flying around about this case, and so many reputations being trashed, that surely the time has come for the authorities in Scotland to do something.

Most people I speak to back home in Scotland have heard “bits” of this story, and a lot comment on the involvement of the “elite”, and in particular of a Sheriff..although most cannot name him. All this is rumbling under the surface, and as time marches on will only get worse the way things are going.

Names of alleged victims and offenders are now all over the internet, together with some of their home addresses. Anyone now coming into contact with this case is almost certainly going to believe what they see on the internet. After all, if people have had their names dragged through the mud, including a Sheriff, and nothing has been done to right a possible wrong, then in most peoples minds there must be some truth to the case.

There is not a lot of confidence in the honesty of the justice system in Scotland, and yes, the police there are mostly in the Freemasons, and a lot are corrupt. The Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service is also somewhat corrupt. I would hope, that a police force outside of Grampian, preferably not another Scottish force, (too incestuous), be instructed to fully investigate the case in full, and “put it to bed” once and for all. Whoever has broken any law can then get punished accordingly.

28 Allcingeye June 1, 2010 at 13:56

It is Fine Running Down Robert Green And Hollie Greig but The young lady is saying she has been raped and she wants to fight,
Mark Daly managed to get a autopsy Report, Remember mark Daly still believes Hollie Was telling the truth about being raped.
and how did Mark Daly get a private Autopsy Report As Ann did not have it when Mark was looking at making his video on the cover up. I hope people do listen to Mark Daly you will hear a very scared Mark Daly May be The sister mentioned was a sister inlaw, is there any kind fellow who can help sheriff buchanan make a video.
I take it if Hollie Greig with Down syndrome can get on a few videos
sheriff buchanan has the right to do the same and the others involved as well, or can take Hollie Greig to court.

29 Radical Views June 1, 2010 at 20:42

There are a lot of people out there trying to burst this particular bubble as it grows and grows beyond the ability of the authorities to control the situation. Good evening trolls! If YOU have any evidence, I mean concrete evidence that you can bring to the police to prove that this horrendous tale is anything less than that portrayed by the Greigs and their supporters – bring it on! Otherwise we are left with the inevitable conclusion that the media, politicians and the legal system are avoiding this like the plague because it will bring their whole pack of satanic cards crashing down – and what a mess that would be. So, yes, support the satanic fraternity if you wish, but I will have nothing to do with it and will continue to support all moves to reveal the gruesome truth about our so-called leaders.

30 Radical Review June 2, 2010 at 01:47

‘If YOU have any evidence, I mean concrete evidence that you can bring to the police to prove that this horrendous tale is anything less than that portrayed by the Greigs and their supporters

31 A Guy June 2, 2010 at 02:47

What really makes me laugh is the likes of Sandra Barr and Paul Drockton. Never met anyone related to the case and fully prepared to lie and slander on one hand and play the “love and light” card with the other hand……crazy people…

32 Motherof2 June 2, 2010 at 09:57

Anna you have made a few errors in your article I am afraid, and you have glossed over certain characters’ input to the cause so let me help you out and give you the chance to dispel the theory that you are working alongside such scum.

The man you write about GLW was actually the first person to put the alleged abusers names on the internet. H’s mother apparently had no internet access and gave this man full permission to blog on Hollie’s behalf as she trusted him. Is honestly possible that a man of such experience (I do not doubt that he is a very intelligent man) would publish this list of 14 names, names of high ranking officials in Scotland without doing his research? Are we to honestly believe that his heart was so big that he jumped on this information with good intentions and printed the names putting his reputation at risk?
Or perhaps… just perhaps… he read over the names, did his research and noticed H’s mother had listed Evelyn as sister and not sister in law. Perhaps he printed this list knowing that if anyone such as Mark Daly became involved that little mistake could be highlighted to make the story less credible?
The said Blogger’s nasty and drawn out arguments with the likes of Paul Drockton have caused Tom George to quit, and unfortunately Mr Drockton took this as a sign of Tom being a ‘turncoat’. Mr Drockton does not speak for all H supporters. I’m afraid his homophobic and paranoid rantings have done the campaign a lot of harm… people are exposing his anti-gay groups with absolute GLEE and calling him poor man’s Alex Jones. So what if he is? It is people like you who are giving him such credence in the campaign. Most of us H supporters really don’t give him a second thought. Why are people like you determined to portray him as ‘a leading light?’
What is your interest in doing so?
Anyway Anna I don’t expect you to print this as you seem to have made up your mind about the whole thing, I just wish I had your black and white approach to life it would sure help me sleep better at night.
Also Pabs and Plum were NOT the creators of the larger facebook group, there was a guy J who set up the group and Pabs contacted him ASKING to be an administrator. Was J perhaps a little too trusting in accepting him? Perhaps he did not realise how big this was going to be….
Anyway Anna best wishes to you, perhaps you won’t mind me pointing out these FACTS.

33 Garibaldi June 2, 2010 at 14:43

“Mr Drockton does not speak for all H supporters.” ” Most of us H supporters really don

34 Motherof2 June 2, 2010 at 16:04

Garibaldi I honestly do not know what I would do if one of my children said they were ‘raped by lawyers and judges’ and nobody in power would help. I do not know what I would be capable of.

As far as the Drockton issue goes a LOT of H’s supporters have been put off by his unnecessary attack on TG. He is NOT the leader of H’s campaign, never has been and never will be. You only have to look at the amount of members in his facebook groups to see that.

35 Garibaldi June 2, 2010 at 16:45

Not the leader no – you mis-quote me. God help you; Robert Green is, is he not? (Much much worse) But Drockton of Mighty Brain IS A LEADING LIGHT!!! The man has a microphone, a radio programme and a loudish voice, is happy to pimp his wretched programme on YOUR FACEBOOK GROUP PAGE dear. **Ding Dong** Penny dropped yet? Hooray, now you see it – Hollie Greig’s face plastered all over the internet, airwaves, leaflets in Glasgow last Saturday etc = total exploitation and I do believe the penny is finally begining to drop. Be brave, go the full way and STOP using Hollie Greig as self-medication all of you. Seek it elsewhere.

36 Greg_L-W. June 2, 2010 at 16:25

Hi,

my congratulations to MotherOf2 – imagine when so much has already been written by way of fantasy by the ill informed and the fantasist exploiting this story amid their chakras, karmas and fanciful bile – I must congratulate you on managing to invent a new Conspiracy.

That’ll keep the idiots guessing.

Just in passing you will note if dilligent I did NOT publish the names first – they had already been put in the public domain. By the way now you remind me that with the simplest of investigation the BBC chap who I have NEVER spoken to but know of well from associates who have worked with him over many years – he of course identified the fact that the list Robert Green had so glibly published without ANY evidence was I gather clearly wrong.

A pity you are not better connected but sadly as you are too ashamed of your foolish comments and your new conspiracy theory to put your name to them or I could have provided you with contacts better informed than I as in this instance I never offered to ‘Investigate’, and both Anne & Robert were more than happy to regularly spend an age on the phone to me and utilise my contacts as neither of them had ANY.

Amusingly we note you are isolated in that you claim Tom George quit because I exposed the imbecilic bedroom broadcaster Drockton for the liar and charlatan he is yet it is he who seeks to conving we are one and the same whilst the idiotic Matt Quinn seeks to claim Paul Phillips, Tom George and myself are actually reincarnations of Roy Greig or Anne’s son – delusional or what, but clearly you are nearly as batty.

You are right though perhaps it was to fltter the flattulent excrecence Drockton by calling him a poor man’s Alex Jones!

By the way is the J of your fantasy your crystal ball assures you set up farcebook – You don’t believe you may have misread the rhunes when in fact you meant Pabs and Plum who were asked by James Ellis to help set it up.

Such a pity of your so called facts you managed to get almost all wrong but never mind with your silly name you are spared the embarrassment that your children may have had with such a staggeringly self important fool as a Mother.

Do try to get the odd thing right next time – IF you want some accurate facts you can give me a call since you are clearly so out of touch!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

37 Motherof2 June 2, 2010 at 17:02

I will back out of this now, clearly I have rattled the cage of a man who is unstable and I just don’t care to be on the receiving end of his next internet RANT. I certainly do not care to telephone a man who is capable of such bile, I feel he has done himself no favours at all being so nasty and vitriolic towards people who are simply seeking the truth and perhaps this is the reason people look to ‘conspiracy theories’ rather than what he DEMANDS we believe.
The lowest point which has been reached so far is printing H’s address on the internet – downright disgusting – so forgive me if I don’t take his word.

Also I did not call Paul Drockton a “Poor man’s Alex Jones’ I was quoting the Raccoon herself.

As for me being a self important fool of a mother well Mr LW it takes one to know one.

38 Anna Raccoon June 2, 2010 at 17:05

Mother of2,

La Raccoon has never referred to Paul Drockton as a ‘poor man’s Alex Jones’ – kindly give a correct reference to this quote.

39 Motherof2 June 2, 2010 at 17:10

I do beg your pardon Ms Raccoon this was in another comment by another person. It was not my intention to call him it directly.

40 Hollie June 2, 2010 at 19:29

Well done Mother of 2 for letting people have an insight into the farce that calls himself GLW. This man speaks of the exploitation and abuse H is suffering by being ”paraded around the internet” , the man is so concerned he contacted Social Services regarding this issue, yet this same man then prints H’s full address on his blog.
Need I say more.
If anything happens to Hollie since her address has been published I will hold you personally responsible.

41 Radical Review June 2, 2010 at 20:49

You will hold motherof2 responsible??

Read your post again Hollie.

42 Green gets called to account … June 3, 2010 at 02:53

The ruthless and reckless charlatan, fantasist, liar and menace that is Robert Green gets called to account in this very courageous and truthful open letter. But will he have the integrity, courage, humility and honour to now do what’s being asked of him … or will his arrogance, selfishness and HUGE ego prevent him for doing so?

Time will tell …

http://stolenkids-hollie.blogspot.com/2010/06/sk-h221-paul-phillips-to-robert-green.html

Well done to the brave, honest, humble and honourable Paul Phillips for calling the very ruthless, reckless and arrogant Mr Green to account.

Paul is a man of honour who deserves to be applauded for exposing this public menace and liar once and for all.

Green should be arrested and put in prison for his reckless actions over the past 18 months.

43 Phil Brennan June 3, 2010 at 13:11

I have been reporting on this case for some time, and even though I believe that something must have happened to Hollie Greig, I have always refused to name names simply because to do so would ruin any chance of a fair trial should it ever come to court.

The sudden silence concerning the case is suspicious to me, but I shall withhold judgement until such a time as all the facts come to light. Yes, my suspicions are raised…

Meanwhile, if legitimate activists would like me to highlight cases they have successfully prosecuted I would be delighted to do so.

44 The “Hollie’s Barmy Army” Facebook braying mob June 3, 2010 at 21:48

The “Hollie’s Barmy Army” Facebook braying mob …

They all sit at their computers; judging, condemning, speculating, mocking, spitting, hissing, gnarling, growling and ripping each other to shreds.

They accuse, condemn, defame, slander and hang the noose around others necks without a shred of evidence and anyone given a fair trial in a court of law.

They demand “Justice For Hollie” without realising the injustice they are perhaps doing to all those who they have already publicly named and condemned without a shred of evidence to support their screams for “justice”.

They don’t know Anne and that she possibly is indeed mentally ill (to a greater or lesser degree) and perhaps could even be suffering from M

45 Robert GREEN HAS FINALLY FLIPPED!! June 4, 2010 at 06:40
46 Greg_L-W. June 4, 2010 at 09:38

Hi,

there is a huge amount more original evidence now published on:
http://StolenKids-Hollie.blogspot.com

ALL bringing us inexorably closer to Justice and the truth and making it clear that only with EVIDENCE can an enquiry be held.

You will however note my cunning plan – I have requested Shrewasbury Social Services learning skills section look into the possibility that Hollie Greig who would seem to have a mental age of around 5 be investigated as there is a possibility she is being exploited and abused!

Clever or what!

Obviously this will lead to establishing the truth and getting Justice – IF the braying asses of Hollie’s Bonkers Army of nutters are right and Robert Green & Anne Greig are telling the truth then we WILL get Justice and they have nothing to fear.

IF of course they actually have something to fear they are likely to be councelled by those seeking to exploit them to ‘leg it’ – of course this will be most effective until Hollie has need of medical care WHAT THEN?

How confident are those who would be mad enough to harbour them that long term damage isn’t being done – have YOU the expertise to stop Robert, or worse still Anne going Postal IF they are exposed by the very enquiry they wanted me to get for them!

There is as you ALL know for certain NO EVIDENCE could there be some out there who are stupid enough to take these risks with other people’s lives WITHOUT EVIDENCE.

You have seen the utter lunacies of poor sad/evil Robert Greens Uriah Heep performances and his utterly and proven barking denunciations of ANYONE who has seen through his scam. If you haven’t – hunt them down they are a text book study of delusional derangement – the man is as mad as a stoat – a dangerous out of control menace in society at large.

Just read the FACTS produce the evidence. His stunning stupidity is there for all to see. As with the MADLY proliferating blogs and web sites crammed with bizarre fantasies and obsessions about me and sadly also A.R.

I could care less I owe my living to no man and in my impecunity I have the independence Millionaires strive for – but think of the lynch mob should they ever wish to get off of benefits and get a job and a life – will their current fantastical stupidity harm their prospects for life as they linger on on the internet?

Sorry – false sympathy is so transparent ;-(

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

47 Garibaldi June 4, 2010 at 10:11

“How confident are those who would be mad enough to harbour them that long term damage isn

48 Radical Review June 4, 2010 at 10:07

can anyone clarify how the justice system works?
I had thought that if there are complaints of abuse against a vulnerable person, then the justice system in the process of preparing a case for court, would require social services to provide reports? How would Social Services do this if they did not interact with the complainant?
Surely the FB campaigners and Robert Green who want an open investigation should see this as a step to what they have been asking for?

49 Radical Review June 4, 2010 at 10:41

#45, I am reading your links in utter horror. Robert Greens ‘statement’ is nuts. If social services don’t get involved and protect this woman from him and the FB crazies there is going to be a tragedy. I can’t see any other outcome unless this madness is halted now.

50 Greg_L-W. June 4, 2010 at 11:09

Hi,

Radical – I regret you are 100% right and thse exploiters are now USING Hollie, Anne & Robert and it is a VERY dangerous and unpredictable game they are ‘playing’ they know it but insist on basing their idiotic arguments on barely understood hearsay, inadequate checks and trying to make as if who cares what money I have.

The barking bufoons at UKIP column are now openly claiming it must be true I’m a Government agent because they don’t know where I get my money from!!

Just think this loon Gerrish was once allowed to wear a British Uniform and put in charge of a plastic washing up bowl and a crew of not many! But people no less!

One of UKIP’s very few sensible actions was toss him out alomng with the idiotic and vicious Albert the polisher and legal genius (well Special Constable!). You just couldn’t make it up. Gerrish has surrounded himself like a latter day Charlie Manson in his cult of geriatric crones and bizarre Squeeky Fromes!

They’ve got god which is deeply worrying he is supposed to have wandered around on a hill near THEM.

Gerrish had a hissy fit with me years ago when I gave him his first platform outside his bathroom! An intense, paranoid and furtive little chap but I made the mistake of questioning his evidence – I supplied him with data on the graduates of Common Purpose and as ever he had to be in charge and stole the disc!!

He is not a lot less mad than Robert Green but just as vicious if you ask for EVIDENCE. That is why they make absolutely no meaningful headway because all that a cult permits is sad followers but no reason, no logic and heaven forefend NO EVIDENCE!!

Watch their seminars on video they are slick, competent and crass!

Now look at the fantasy of the Hollie Story!! NO EVIDENCE just the utterly mad ravings of Robert Green – all so simple to repudiate.

By the way why is it their business how I ear my money? I’m puzzled by that! So because the idiots can’t identify how I live I must be a Government agent – how barking is that!!

These idiots must be the only people left who have avoided reading my output – anyone heard the latest joke?
Greg’s a Government Agent!!

OK Green, Gerrish, and the rest of the paranoid lunatic fringe – have you got any evidence to back your fantasies, libels, slanders and defamation.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

51 Pabs June 4, 2010 at 12:47

I am shocked at the way this has panned out. Shocked with myself. Shocked by the brimstone evangelists that send you to hell for questioning your own faith in THEIR conviction. Shocked by the way they stand for justice whilst parading a vulnerable girl like a wild west freak show in the name of openess and justice. Shocked by the hypocritical demands for answers and apologies (yet can come forward with neither). Shocked at the remorseless cold treatment of people who have given so much time, effort, energy, dogmatic trust – that are then hailed as shills and agents merely for asking to have the conclusive proof shared or acted upon before we continue with upholding the most serious of claims possible. Shocked at the fact that the government have not stepped in to defend themselves (probably because they do actually have something to hide – nothing to hide, nothing to fear remember). Shocked at the vitriolic abuse that is spat at each other in the name of truth. I am shocked at the human race. We are an abomination to evolution. I am also not only shocked but disgusted with all of the above.

I have however met many quiet, genuine, hurt, hopeful, needy and clearly wonderful people that have fallen foul of our own species, especially through being involved in this. Be it those that genuinely want us to do a lot better as a species or victims of establishment, relatives, social networking lunatics, glory hunters, paranoid deviants. These are the people I stand for. The hope for humanity is with them and it is these that will suffer most from the continuation of farces such as this that is Robert Greens responsibility to address honourably.

There is oil flooding into the seas which is a potential disaster of a scale we have never known, there are soldiers killing innocent civilians in illegal wars with radioactive munitions, heads of banking and media colluding in secret meetings – that is NOW.

We are consumed with the actions of a charlatan. But it is all part of the change that we are seeing and it is down to the individual to seek and accept the truth. I accept my foolishness in running with this over the last 5 months and am seeking to rectify it, not to save my skin, but as I am duty bound to make all those aware of my concerns for the validity of something I so strongly disseminated to them. How do I explain to my father that what he got so upset by but was proud of my courage to stand for – that it was a hoax? My friends. 27000 people that came in hope? There have been some incredible lessons here. If we learn from them I believe we can forgive ourselves and others and also still see the change we hoped for.

My thoughts are, as they always were, with Hollie for whatever the truth of this – it is she that will remain the abused and innocent. Also with those that looked to this wreckers lamp charading as a lighthouse in the storm of our de-humanisation.

Consequence is no coincidence.

52 Anna Raccoon June 4, 2010 at 12:50

Pablo,
I stand in awe of your eloquence.
Congratulations.

53 Radical Review June 4, 2010 at 13:06

here, here.

54 Garibaldi June 4, 2010 at 13:07

Aye well that’s set me off with the tears Pabs. Beautiful, the utter truth perfectly written and presented in a nut shell. Thankyou.

55 Tom George, Edinburgh June 4, 2010 at 14:17

Agree with all the above plaudits.

Pabs – you know how I feel about you buddy … the most honourable and decent man to come out of this tragedy.

I am as regretful about this whole very sorry and tragic state of affairs as you are and am very ashamed that I was duped by the charm, plausibility and cunning ruthlessness and recklessness of Robert Green – he who demands apologies of others, but isn’t honourable and honest enough to do so himself and concede he might, just might, have made a mistake and got it wrong … a hellova lot wrong. The arrogance of this man is quite astounding.

God help Anne and Hollie now – wherever they may be hiding out? They are in the “care” of a charlatan(s), deluded fool(s) and criminal(s).

I only hope if they are in need of urgent medical help, their own health won’t be sacrificed to protect the identity of those who have spirited them away.

My thoughts are with them – no matter what they too may think about me now … I care not a jot what the braying mob think and they are free to phone me if they want to denegrate me and challenge me in any way.

07791-226-490

56 Scarlet Pimpernel June 4, 2010 at 16:29

I am not a “brimstone evangelist”. I am though quite confused as to your position.

“How do I explain to my father that what he got so upset by but was proud of my courage to stand for

57 Tom George, Edinburgh June 4, 2010 at 17:26

Scarlet Pimpernel said …

“May I ask just what it is you think the government have to hide if it is all a hoax?” …

Perhaps the fact that they should have dealt with the allegations more thoroughly and professionally a decade ago, thus avoiding the ill-informed, ruthless, reckless and highly irresponsible braying mob onslaught ten years later.

Still waiting for Drockton and Green to publicly apologise and show some humility …

“They seek them here, they seek them there … those many duped souls seek them everywhere. Are they in heaven or are they in HELL, those damn elusive Pimpernels”!

58 Scarlet Pimpernel June 4, 2010 at 18:24

Fair point Mr George. However, I hope you do not think I am “ill-informed. ruthless and highly irresponsible”? Perhaps a couple of hundred years ago, but not now. As for braying, I leave that to the more unsavoury of mobs sir!

Does our Mr George also speak for you Mr Phillips?

You are thoroughly deserving of an apology from the American, but Green? Has he also slandered your good name?

Finally sir, if I am in “HELL”, then I can only say what a thoroughly pleasant “HELL” it is! In fact, I could not recommend “HELL” more highly!

59 Tom George, Edinburgh June 4, 2010 at 19:32

I have no idea if you are “ill-informed, ruthless and highly irresponsible”. I am still seeking you as you know. But I’m delighted to read you are not of the braying variety – that’s a relief to see … phewee! I would never wish to cross swords with you SP.

No, of course, I don’t talk for Pabs – he, like G L-W, is more than capable of speaking for himself, as I think you know. But I do respect him immensely and agree with his very eloquent analysis of this very tragic tale now I regret to say.

Thank you for agreeing that “the American” does indeed owe me apology – I can clearly see, whoever (and wherever ?) you are, you are a fair, reasoned and rational person. It is a great pity there weren’t more amidst all the melee that ensued some time ago in this very sorry affair.

Yes, I’m afraid the ever so charming, plausible, manipulative, arrogant, cunning, ruthless, reckless, two-faced and LYING Mr Green (SUE ME) has indeed slandered my name with others – as he has Pabs … to me on the phone on Tuesday past when I phoned him up again to challenge his deafening silence and callous indifference and to put him on the spot. He said Pabs was “a liar” in fact – just like I apparently called Hollie “a liar” … NOT. It was pretty desperate stuff. Now that I am no longer just another “yes man” and adoring, deluded, duped and fawning fan, he has gone off me somewhat – kind of indicates the very warped and ruthless personailty-disordered type we are really dealing with here. Not very honourable or gentlemanly at all I’m afraid to say.

I am of course so sorry to learn that you are presently in “HELL”, but I am pleased to read that you seem to be in good company there. I hope you never get burnt and enjoy the stay with “the more unsavoury of mobs” you encounter whilst down there.

Good day to you SP. I certainly won’t ever cross swords with you again!

60 Tom George, Edinburgh June 4, 2010 at 13:40

Open Letter to Mr Paul Drockton – he who doesn’t have the honesty, integrity, honour and humility to publicly and unreservedly apologise to me, Pabs and many others for his own “slanderous filth” …

Mr Paul Drockton
“Dead Mans Musings”
The Paul Drockton Online Radio Show
USA

Email: pdrockton@aol.com

Friday 4 June 2010

Paul

My honest and truthful reply … and in fairness to all concerned

You left me without a name on your online radio shows last Friday night (28 May), Monday night (31 May) and Tuesday night (1 June) when Robert was on – no unreserved apology on the latter programme from you or Robert … how honourable and gentlemanly you both are! You accused me of being things I am plainly not and that I said “Hollie is a liar” – I have / would not say that … EVER. You slandered my name and wished me harm and ill. “Slanderous filth” indeed sir!

This whole thing turned pear-shaped after the Mark Daly interview on the Tony “Legend” radio show on the night of Sunday 25 April 2010 – where Robert and Anne were found wanting and doubts starting to develop amongst those who believed every aspect of this “case”. You know how this developed over the course of that week, no thanks to your bullish and egotistical behaviour – when you and Greg started to name call, flame and let your big egos take over … and I was caught in the crossfire in the process. Greg at least has had the decency and integrity to apologise and express sincere regret over that and I accepted his apology and know he never intended for me to become “collateral damage”.

I have made my position perfectly clear about Greg in my previous emails to you several times. I agree he has perhaps overstepped the mark about certain things and I certainly do not agree with all he writes – I do not want you or anyone to commit suicide or come to any harm or ill … he should not have said that, but we all can say things in anger that we don’t really mean and later regret … I have done so many times throughout my life and I am obviously very regretful for doing so … but we all sadly do. I am not Greg’s master and cannot force him to stop what he says on his blog. He has been getting a lot of “slanderous filth” too and even death threats as well – perhaps you might want to retaliate and would get very angry too … I know I certainly would not take such “slanderous filth” without wanting to defend my good name … as I have been doing over the past few days with you Again, I am not defending Greg (he is perfectly capable of doing that himself) and I don’t agree with everything he writes, but I would say there are certainly reasonable mitigating circumstances for his actions over the past 5 weeks.

Greg is not working for the government (nor am I or Pabs – which is just very paranoid thinking if anyone thinks we are), he is not the devil, he is not evil and he is not mad or deranged – had you spoken to him at the end of April when suggested, you could have determined that for yourself. But he is obviously very hacked off that he has been rounded on by a largely ignorant, ill-informed and angry braying mob who do not really know him or the full circumstances of his involvement in Hollie’s case since early last year – and you did exactly the same when you wrongly accused him on my now defunct “Scots AgainstInjustice” Facebook Profile Wall on Tuesday 27 April 2010 and then left him without a name on your online radio show on Thursday 29 April 2010 – which I challenged you over on a point of principle (his right to reply to your charges) and you refused to respond and phone me as I requested.

There are a lot of people now who are greatly dissatisfied with the apparent lack of HARD evidence. There are a lot of people who feel used, abused, duped and discarded. There are a lot of people who doubt the veracity of the whole case. There are a few people who have been involved since last year (I was one of that few) who have now been hung out to dry without a public apology from Robert, Stuart or Anne – or with even a hint of any regret in a public statement.

And you wonder why there is now all this mud-slinging, anger, nastiness, hatred, bile and “slanderous filth”!?

Speaking of which … I still await your full, proper, public and unreserved apology from you for your “slanderous filth” towards me – and Pabs.

How about it Paul? …

Show some honesty, integrity, honour and humility as I have done and just say …

“I’m profusely sorry Tom and I unreservedly apologise … I slandered your good name without justified reason and I was very wrong to do so” …

And put it on your website for the public record as well.

I’m waiting Paul …

Tom

07791-226-490

cc. Stuart Usher, Robert Green et al

PS. Remember Paul … it was because of you that I am now in the position I am and getting accused of things that are simply untrue, unfair and unjustified.

This letter can be freely disseminated to others and reproduced anywhere on the internet – but the full and complete text only.

__________

ADDENDUM:

Anna Raccoon is as much a shill as I am. Those who still think myself, Pabs, Greg and Anna are “highly paid government agents” really ought to seek immediate psychiatric help for their paranoid disorders.

61 Anna Raccoon June 4, 2010 at 13:57

Anna Raccoon is as much a shill as I am. Those who still think myself, Pabs, Greg and Anna are

62 Greg_L-W. June 4, 2010 at 14:26

Hi,

after the eloquence of Paul Phillips so well presenting the case – just look at this shamefull and cowardly drivel from some no nothing low life with little command of the language and less knowledge of the facts.

Little wonder that this particular cowardly excrecence is too ashamed to put his name to the nonsense he circulates.

I am sickened by the sponge brained snivelling cowards like this buffoon – pre pubescent little girls trolling the internet making much of showing off – Robert green is not disimilar with the hatefull residual gaggle of wituperative witches egging him on in his obscene and irresponsible behaviour – Cat Shit or whatever you childish name is you are clearly out of your depth, just leaping up and down showing off.

Be grown up enough if you are going to dishonestly and vituperatively defame adults to put your name to your banal mutterings.

Now sunshine for all your sad weenie waggling pop your plastic mac back on and let us know:
Where is the evidence – have YOU Personally seen ANY EVIDENCE.

Remember those ‘Show and Tell’ lessons you were having not so long ago – well you sad muppet SHOW & TELL what evidence YOU have seen.

In best part of 2 years involvement with this sad fantasy I have seen not one shred! Now we have some irresponsible foul mouthed (yes I saw your childish posting an the batty Sandra Barr’s secret squirrel site & the shamefull comments of that geriatric creep Stuart Usher who surely is old enough to know better! & yet again Brian Gerrish’s childish dribblings in his fantasy comic for the lunatic fringe obsessed with how I earn a living which PROVES for these half wits that I am a Government agent, a measure of their sanity!)

ButlinCat – you are a risible fool with little intelligence and less common sense another motor mouth unfettered by thought or reason and blind to the FACTS – you are defaming people with not a shred of evidence and in the association of the criminal nutters.

I now believe that for Hollie & Anne’s safety it is time they were taken into care in a swecure unit until this madness calms down.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they are BOTH at risk – and of course Hollie as a desparately impaired person with a mental age around 5 is most ably suited to continue in the loving care of her Mother but obviously with suitable medical and Social Services support to avoid exploitation and abuse in the future from evil people like Green, butlincat, Barr, Usher, Drockton, Gerrish and others willing to rush in without ascertaining a single solitary FACT.

There is NO EVIDENCE, there was NO CRIME until Robert Green & Stuart Usher started to commit one.

IF ANYONE has one shred of doubt of the FACTS in this fantasy surrounding Hollie Greig please feel free to contact me – you don’t have to believe me or trust me but do listen before there is a tragedy!

butlincat2012
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Hi – I just wish to inform you that the people mentioned in the press release below are nothing to do with our cause of trying to get justice for Hollie Greig,on facebook and numerous other sites.We are trying to get justice in this case of sexual abuse against her by a Scottish paedophile ring, the ring consisting of a top policeman {now deceased}, nurses, social workers, lawyers, and many more, the whole atrocity being covered up from media exposure by the Law Advocate of Scotland Elish Angilioni, probably by subtle threat and inuendo of dire consequences should the facts of the case be reported in the main media. Please be clear these crimes did exist, for at least over 15 years to Hollie, and are probably still going on today to some poor innocent child.Hollie was awarded

63 John Banks June 4, 2010 at 16:19

The one person who matters most out of all the rest is Hollie herself. If Hollie was abuse by her father at first, i am surprise he was not arrested as the primary suspect.

There are procedures that come into play, when an allegation of abuse is reported. The Police, social workers, who are trained in child protection, would have concern, not only for Hollie but also, equally for other vulnerable people, who may have been abused.

The seriousness of this abuse is because Hollie, is not only a vulnerable adult, but also more so because she lacks capacity. That means she is open to be coerced into doing things, by those who are out to exploit her

The person or persons who committed the abuse would be the only ones who hold the evidence. That is why an investigation, involving many professionals is triggered.

A Professional who works in child Protection has told me, that Hollies

64 Shona, the Weegie Burd June 4, 2010 at 17:36

Some good points John.

We should also remember there were some very abnormal aspects to the treatment received by Robert Green following his first arrest. As you will recall, his hearing took place in Stonehaven despite the Aberdeen Press & Journal (red herring or misapprehension?) saying it would be (as would have been expected) in Aberdeen Sheriff Court. Then there is the fact that the the hearing was held in camera! Quite extraordinary for a trifling Breach of the Peace, wouldn’t you say?!

I was present for those events. One of the people I spoke with that day was the duty solicitor in Aberdeen Sheriff Court. She assured me that asking concerned callers (wanting to know where Robert Green was!) to leave their names and contact details with the Procurator Fiscal’s (PF) call centre (in Glasgow) was completely unheard of! Incidentally, the PF call centre people refused to tell anyone where or even if, Robert’s case was being held that day. If Robert Green is to be believed, the police (or others?) told him on the Friday(!) that his hearing would be in Stonehaven. (Shame they didn’t inform the P&J…?) Why then could the PF’s office not tell us that on the Monday? Should information like that not be in the public domain? Obviously I was also very concerned about Robert’s no-show at court, however, not one official in the court could (or would?) tell me anything. (I found out via the Internet like everyone else.)

Incidentally, while loitering in the hallways of the court, I more than once heard chatty banter between advocates and others to the effect of, ‘It’s awfully quiet for a Monday’.

Finally, also worthy of note was the heavy police presence in and around the court in Stonehaven. (We counted around 7 or 8 officers.) I was informed by two reliable locals that again, apart -perhaps- from hearings involving powerful drug lords and the like, this was utterly unheard of.

I believe that whenever the authorities seemingly deviate from Standard Operating Procedure in manners such as these, freedom-loving citizens should endeavour to find out why. And you know, as they say, no smoke without fire!

Luv

Shone

PS GLW is forbidden from re-producing in any manner this, or any other of my writings. I don’t mind others doing so, just as long as I am not misrepresented.

65 Shona, the Weegie Burd June 4, 2010 at 17:57

PPS The PF call centre staff *only* asked for people’s names and details after they knew who we were calling about. To quote the lady I spoke with, “Ah right, we’ve been told to take your name and contact number…”

66 Greg_L-W. June 4, 2010 at 20:30

Hi,

I note with some amusement the astonishing lack of understanding of the law on the part of Shona – she cleeves to herself the near divine right to defame, dissemble and distort and seeks to deny the right of the truth.

IDIOT – why not type at the top:

Here are my lies and no one is allowed to tell the truth.

Shona you have no such legal right though it is clear you fear the possibility nay probability, well in reality certainty that you will be proved wrong on many of your ridicul;ous misrepresentations and fanciful leaps of logic.

I will return to your self indulgent twaddle and answer it in full on StolenKids when it suits me and to suppress the truth you may by all means lose a fortune in the law courts trying to uphold a right to lie without right of reply!

This sadly is anexample of the rigor that has been brought in this story and it is founded quite clearly on mob rule, the lynch mob and hysteria, from idiotic people like Shona who eggs on sad figures like the liar and fool Stuart Usher.

Your special pleading to lie without retort is just risible!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

67 Shona, the Weegie Burd June 5, 2010 at 00:25

Sir,

At no point in my “self indulgent twaddle” did I lie and I resent your slanderous assertions that I did!

Just to make things abundantly clear for you; the parenthesised comments ending in question marks represent CONJECTURE, which I fully accept may not be representable of the truth. (The clamp down on free speech has not gone that far, has it?)

Conjecture aside, I would be more than willing to repeat *any* of the above in a court of law.

Once again, I forbid you from re-producing my “self indulgent twaddle” on any of your sites.

Shona

68 Shona, the Weegie Burd June 5, 2010 at 01:18

PS To be more legally rigorous for you, replace CONJECTURE with OPINION. Those opinions being based on facts.

69 Greg_L-W. June 4, 2010 at 16:56

Hi,

I’m surprised John Banks hasn’t found out ANY of the relevant details and I guess his chum in Social Services must be very lowly to dispense such opinions with no facts!

You seem unaware that you found your views on two assumptions – first that your chum has a clue about Scottish procedures and secondly that an abuse took place.

Next since these points are unknown to you, you state with certainty that the handling procedure was at fault – Oh!

Need I continue as clearly you too have seen NO EVIDENCE.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

70 John Banks June 4, 2010 at 19:14

As I have said, the primary concern is for Hollie, since she was abused. If the abuser of Hollie was an ordinary

71 Greg_L-W. June 4, 2010 at 20:19

Hi,

John with respect I suggest you take the advice you have offered in your last paragraph.

You clearly know nothing of this story.

Be minded there is not one shred of usable evidence that words are put in the mouth of a woman with a mental age of 5 is all too possible.

It is claimed that Hollie Greig was serially and gang raped BY ADULTS, over a period from 6 to 20 yet concealed this from her Mother deliberately and dishonestly – she has manifest no medical evidence of rape, no forensic evidence of rape, no physical evidence of rape and no reaction to gang rape.

There is absolutely no evidence of rape and what Mother would be so uncaring as to have no cogniscence of distress nor signs of laundry. This was a child who, it is claimed, without evidence, had been both vaginally and anally raped WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE!!

We also have a fantasy of the murder of Anne’s brother – again with not a shred of evidence that his death was other than suicide and further more with apparent due cause.

PLEASE take your own advice.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

72 scriabinsdamagedhand June 23, 2010 at 00:31

Greg you used the word rape,in relation to a child,7 times in that rather brief post.
time for a cold shower me thinks.

just for the record,are you the same greg hyphen hyphen that accusses gordon brown of having a taste for rent boys?
the same greg hyphen hyphen who says he has proof that tony blair was tried and convicted for gay sex in a public place

your posts reveal a very strange mind at work,one which you have my sympathy for having to inhabit

dont bother getting yourself all worked up into some self-righteous indignant self important rant because I wont be returning to this awful blog,I feel dirty enough after a single visit.

73 John Banks June 4, 2010 at 20:41

I would have thought Hollie

74 Garibaldi June 4, 2010 at 21:51

Call me naive John but when I first read about this story, my initial reaction was like everyone else’s…it was like one of these crap novels you find in a charity shop bin. Horrifying story and you just couldn’t help but be sucked in by it. But the logic part of my tiny brain nagged me into ditching the emotion …. and I found things much clearer.

I have a very old friend who worked in a woman’s refuge for 16 yrs – the few stories she shared with me over that time would make your flesh creep and eyes water and even she said of this case – no, it would not stand up without concrete evidence. They do not have it she said. What about the girl’s father…thats where any hope of a conviction lies. And she knows, believe me. John, you do not stand a chance in hell of success. Face it, and if you must keep your campaign going then for god’s sake make some major changes quickly before Hollie’s life becomes even more difficult for her. And it will, believe me. None of us baddies are spys or crooks. We are all good people who want what is best for this woman and are fighting to get it, like you. But I do believe we have logic on our side; your team are too damn high on emotion and have seriously cocked things up. Bring them to heel!

75 Greg_L-W. June 5, 2010 at 00:56

Hi,

John do you have evidence to back this contention?

Perhaps the facts gathered relentlessly over well over a year would have helped you.

When did he leave? Why? etc.?

You may tend to be a little more accurate if you had established the facts!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

76 John Banks June 4, 2010 at 23:04

Any allegation of sexual abuse, in the first instance, the named perpetrator would be arrested, and charged. Hollie

77 Greg_L-W. June 5, 2010 at 00:59

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Woops!

Hi,

a very valid THEORY

78 Roger Stevens June 25, 2010 at 21:24

I have been following this alleged abuse story for some time. Originally, I did ask for various pieces of evidence, and none were in fact forthcoming – I believe most of the ‘evidence’ is in fact hearsay or circumstancial, which does not constitute proof at all.

I more or less dismissed the whole thing as yet another conspiracy theory, of the type that abounds all over the internet, from ‘inside jobs’ on 9/11 and 7/7 to lizards in charge of the government.

However, one ot two recent events have intrigued me, over and above the alleged abuse.
Firstly, the ‘raid’ on Anne Greig’s Shropshire home and the changed locks on the doors – why did this occur ?

Secondly, why isn’t Green being sued for libel ? People have been in the courts for much less than is inferred by his allegations.

Thirdly, there is this Lance Watkins character. I don’t know anything about him – I have no axe to grind. But he is certainly weird – the way he constructs sentences is very very odd – he reminds me of a public schoolboy from the debating society who suffers from arrested development.

However, personality apart, this Lance Watkins has placed some photographs on his blog, which according to Green , can only have been obtained during the ‘raid’ on Anne Greig’s house. Try as I might, I cannot find where Lance Watkins has stated where he sourced these photographs , or a denial that he got them from the ‘raid’ on Anne Greig’s house.

Whether Hollie Greig was abused, whether Anne Greig is mentally ill, or Green is a looney, I do not know. But I am very intrigued, and somewhat concerned , about the way that the ‘authorities’ are dealing with this matter.

In particular, since Lance Watkins is ‘holier than thou’ , I would like clarification WHERE he got the photographs of Roy Greig from – just to restore my faith in no-conspiracy-at-all.

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I apologise for the length of this piece. There are a lot of facts to be laid out.

I would also ask before you tell me that I have left this or that fact out that you refer to my original blog post on the subject – I have tried not to repeat myself here.

Comments will be open, especially if you have factual evidence to bring forward. If you come here just to hiss and spit, and treat me to some of the vile and venal abuse that has been bandied around in this case – unless it is especially witty or has some intrinsic merit, it will be deleted.

I have written before on the subject of Robert Green and his ‘campaign’ on behalf of a young female sufferer of Down’s syndrome who, he maintains, was the subject of a vicious and sustained series of rapes by both men and women.

What interests me about this particular case is the fundamental mismatch between, on one hand, the passionate campaign that has raged on Face-book and, on the other, the embarrassingly sparse ‘evidence’ on which it was based.

It has taken me some time to peel away the layers of ‘internet truth’ and to arrive at the essential facts, such as they are, that do exist.

Anne, the girl’s Mother, originally contacted two men to publicise her story. ALL the information that is on the Internet, ALL the firmly held beliefs, ALL the ‘alleged’ evidence, was given to those two men, and emerged into the world via the various means THEY took to publicise the case.

Neither of them was Robert Green. He came into the story later.

Let us take Stuart Usher first. Stuart, a part time Hot Dog salesman runs an organisation called Scotland against Crooked Lawyers and has done for some 10 years or so. It has a website http://www.sacl.org/

Stuart has ‘named and shamed’ some 140 lawyers and judges based in Scotland on his web site regarding a variety of alleged offences, including paedophilia, who, in his opinion, are ‘crooked’. He cites, with great pride, that none of them have ever thought to sue him. Whether this is because his accusations are accurate and they are hanging their head in shame, or because they felt that giving more publicity to wild accusations whilst suing a Hot Dog salesman was possibly counter productive is a matter of opinion.

Still, Stuart Usher was a first hand confident of Anne, the girl’s Mother, and presumably had access to concrete evidence of her claims. Unfortunately, Stuart has decided to withdraw from the case ‘to spend more time with his family’ – as you will find, we end up with a list of people who were ‘in at the beginning’ who have mysteriously melted away.

Tuesday, May 18, 2010
Stuart Usher to Paul Drockton

Paul
I have had increased pressure from my family recently with regard to my efforts to help other people. In a nutshell they feel the time has come for me to divert my efforts to support them instead. I have agreed to this as they have suffered badly over the years and I now feel the time has come for me to concentrate my efforts on them.

Mr Usher did not disappear before recording a radio interview which is available on the Internet.

You require patience and dedication to listen to it all the way through. The amateur ‘disc jockey’ suffers interminable technical problems for the first half hour, and after three quarters of an hour of attempting to make sense of Mr Usher’s words, the disc jockey returns to playing some excruciating hard rock…..I nearly lost the will to live, but I was determined to learn at first hand precisely what the claims were.

Mr Usher would tell you that Anne’s daughter was repeatedly raped at the ‘house of Sheriff B’s sister, Evelyn’. This is casualty number one in the search for truth. Sheriff B simply does not have a sister Evelyn. He may well have a dog called Evelyn, a cat even, but no sister.

These things matter when you are basing a campaign on your right to publicise ‘the truth’.

Mr Usher would also tell you that Anne and her daughter were forced to ‘flee Scotland’ following the ‘murder’ of her brother Roy. Roy had apparently been ‘repeatedly battered over the head with an axe handle’ before being pushed into a car which was set alight in an arson attack.

Now one of the claims which circulates on the Internet is that this unfortunate death was ‘hushed up’ by the authorities, and described as ‘suicide’ when it was murder – the implication is usually that Roy was murdered as a direct result of Anne having laid information with the police a few days earlier. I have repeatedly been told that it was never investigated. Not true.

Whatever the Police investigation amounted to, there was an in depth investigation by an experienced journalist. One Mark Daly of the BBC. Mark Daly is the journalist who according to Robert Green was ‘bullied by his bosses’ into dropping a proposed documentary about the case. This version alternates with one which says that he was silenced by a ‘D’ notice. Mark spoke out on the Face Book group.

“I have been involved in some of the biggest investigations into corruption, racism, murder and child sex abusers broadcast in the UK over the past ten years of my career, and the suggestion that I would be complicit in a cover up of important journalism is insulting and deeply misguided.”
“After careful consideration some time later (before we had filmed anything), we, the programme team, decided we couldn’t proceed with the story. It became clear that the wider allegations that were being made would be impossible to verify, and indeed we had concerns about the veracity of many of them. On that basis, we made a professional decision not to proceed. As journalists, we are not in a position to pick and choose which allegations we want to run or believe, and the vast majority of these allegations were, in our opinion, un-provable. There are few more serious allegations one can make about a person than to call them a paedophile, and for that reason, the evidence has to be of the utmost quality. And in this case, I’m afraid it fell far short of this hurdle.”

You can hear Mark Daly answering his critics here.

Exit Mark Daly – but not before he had helpfully asked for and received from Grampian Police, the autopsy report for Roy Grieg. There the evidence that Roy had been ‘repeatedly battered about the head with an axe handle’ so frequently cited, melts away to become a ‘contusion’ on his head. Contusion being the medical term for a common or garden bruise. The ‘broken ribs’ may well owe more to the strenuous efforts – efforts which earned him a medal from the Royal Humane Society – of a passing oil rig worker who pulled Roy Grieg from his car during a filthy storm and in the middle of the night and gave him CPR in an effort to save his life.

Mark Daly had also uncovered something which directly contradicted Anne’s claim that there could be no truth in the Coroner’s verdict that her brother committed suicide – for he had ‘no reason to commit suicide’. Daly discovered that Roy Greig had been suspended from his job amid allegations of a substantial sum of money missing. He had recently travelled to Glasgow to obtain legal assistance in respect of these matters from his union.

These things matter when you are basing a campaign on your right to publicise ‘the truth’.

Two witnesses down, but fear not. We have more. Next up is Greg Lance-Watkins. Lance-Watkins has spent some 30 years campaigning on behalf of abused children. He runs an ‘enabling’ web site, which helps those children to have their own web site and tell their story under the umbrella of his main web site.   Anne approached him and asked him to publicise her daughter’s story. She explained that she had no internet skills and it was agreed that he would operate the http://stolenkids-hollie.blogspot.com/ and write it as though it was Hollie telling her own story. Those who claim that Hollie is a competent witness for any trial, and cite as evidence the fact that she ‘willingly’ tells her ‘own’ story on her ‘own’ web site, please take note. Mr Lance-Watkins freely admits that the words are his, using information coming from Hollie’s Mother. In his lay opinion, Hollie has a mental age of under 10.

Lance-Watkins has been in this ‘business’ for many years, and he has had some success at obtaining justice for abused children. He is, like Mark Daly, the journalist, fully aware of the necessity for concrete evidence and strongly advised Anne not to court publicity until such time as they had gathered whatever documentary evidence they could. He was assured it would be forthcoming and was available.

Eventually he managed to gain sight of the autopsy report which was cited as evidence that Anne’s brother had been wickedly battered about the head and murdered. He was slightly non plussed to discover that this only amounted to a ‘contusion’ and even more non plussed to learn of the evidence regarding a possible crime in Roy’s workplace, despite having repeatedly pressed Anne for possible reasons for Roy’s suicide.

Then he pressed Anne for the mysterious medical evidence that showed how Hollie had been brutally anally and vaginally raped for 10 years by this paedophile ring. She finally gave him this document.

It is difficult to read, it is a scanned version of a very bad folded photocopy. With diligence and Photoshop’s enlargement facilities, it is possible however.

Hollie was born at the end of 1979 and here we have a Doctor informing another Doctor that at some time prior to 1992 (the date of the letter) Hollie’s parents had jointly enquired as to the need for contraception for their daughter. It was alleged that Hollie had been making sexual overtures to other children within her special needs facility.

I do not propose to further discuss Hollie’s medical affairs; she is entitled to a darn sight more privacy than she has received so far. Suffice it to say, that those who rest their case that Hollie was ‘sexually abused’ in any form on the supposed ‘medical evidence’, would be well advised to read carefully this letter that Anne Greig claims is the evidence. You will not find one iota of evidence from the Doctor who had intimately examined her that this was so. What you will find is that at one point in her life, Hollie had suffered from a minor yet common ailment which can be transmitted sexually – though that is by no means the only way in which you can acquire it.

One could put this paucity of substantive evidence down to yet another example of the authorities ‘covering up’ the abuse of Hollie – except that this is the very document on which Anne Greig rests her case.

Lance-Watkins now reluctantly admits that he is in the embarrassing position of having been ‘duped’ . He has not precisely joined the ranks of those who have walked away from the story, he is too much of a professional for that, however, he has retired to the sidelines and thrown out an open invitation to the thousands of members of ‘Holly’s Army’ who are fighting for ‘Justice for Hollie’ to step forward with any concrete evidence before he puts his reputation at risk any more.

Predictably he has been roundly abused by all concerned for this. The myth and fallacy that abounds on the Internet is too deeply entrenched for anyone to take cautious heed of the man who spoke for Holly ceasing to speak for Holly – it is ‘obvious’ that he is part of the conspiracy protecting these mythical government figures, either that or he has been ‘bought off’ by strange figures from MI5. The truth that he is no more prepared to put his reputation on the line without evidence than was Mark Daly is too bitter a pill for them to swallow.

Which leaves us with the Facebook Group. The home base of Holly’s 27,000 strong army. Or does it?

For you see Paul Phillips and his girlfriend Plum, who set up that Facebook Group and urged supporters to publicise this horrendous story so successfully – well they too have retired from the fray ‘to spend more time with their family’ – as has Tom George from ScotsVInjustice, another man with lots of experience in these cases who sadly doesn’t have a family, but still feels he can do something more with his time.

The Facebook Group was closed down, but not before some horrendous mudslinging as the original publicists of the story withdrew one by one. I have never before seen such venal and vindictive commentators.

I have come across many people over the past year whilst being heavily involved in Hollie’s case – some who are sincere and genuine people and others who have obvious ulterior motives and should really question why they became involved and whose interests they were really trying to further. I would like to state publicly here that everything stated by Pabs and Plum above is all factual and I regard them both as sincere and genuine people whose motives in Hollie’s case, like mine, were purely altruistic and their detractors should be thoroughly ashamed to have denounced them in the very malicious way they have. They are both good human beings and simply did not deserve the vilification that has spewed forth their way over recent days and weeks.

I have other very serious, sad and tragic cases I am vigorously pursuing presently against the authorities in Edinburgh and, yes, Aberdeen too and I am committed to fulfilling my obligations to the people concerned. I hope my rapidly declining health does not negate me having to pass these cases on to others to help with and I can see some kind of satisfactory resolution for the individuals concerned.

Tom
Edinburgh
ScotsVInjustice@aol.com

So far we have lost the medical evidence of horrendous sexual abuse, lost the medical evidence that Anne’s brother was murdered, lost the experienced campaigners against paedophilia that we started off with, shed several experienced journalists along the way – what are we left with?

We have Robert Green, would be journalist and broadcaster, who wishes to publicise the names of the people he says that Hollie says abused her, some of who like Sheriff B’s sister, simply don’t exist. We have Paul Drockton, broadcasting from somewhere several thousand miles away having never met any of the people involved. We have a newspaper in Palestine still prepared to print these allegations against British government figures – oh and we have a new Facebook group containing all the people who would far rather believe that there is a conspiracy here, than to face the fact that all the people who started this campaign have now faded away into the shadows – awaiting something more concrete than the wild accusations thrown around by a woman who has been tormented by grief and difficulties in life.

Fortunately, we also have the figure of Paula Morris in Hollie’s home town of Shrewsbury, a sensible Social Worker, who is currently looking into the welfare of this deeply vulnerable young woman and whether she is capable of making an informed decision as to whether she should be paraded on radio and Internet as the poster girl for the hysterical Hollie’s Army.

There is considerable sexual abuse of young women (and men) with Down’s syndrome. It is an entrenched problem. It is invariably carried out by those who have easy access to these young people. Fathers, brothers, uncles, both real and phoney, bus drivers, care attendants. In some rare cases, and they are rare compared to the bulk of disgracefully mundane cases of sexual abuse, they will include figures from other walks of life. Yes, even Judges, and policemen.

What Hollie’s Army have succeeded in doing is gaining wide spread recognition of the apparent ‘fact’ – without any evidence – that paedophilia is part and parcel of a government conspiracy, rather than an event which is all around you every day, next door to you even. That it is a celebrity vice. That may please their desire for publicity. It does nothing for the thousands of Down’s Children who need to be protected.

Perhaps all 27,000 of Holly’s Army might care to get themselves CRB checked – those of them who are able to pass such a check, for sure there will be paedophiles amongst these groups – where else will they find constant discussions of the finer points of sexual abuse? And when they have passed their checks, they might care to volunteer to help protect these deeply vulnerable individuals. They will find it most rewarding.

Perhaps a tad boring compared to the glamour of demanding the right to libel most of the Scottish political establishment on the basis of zero evidence and wild accusations.

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The Stereotypical Hollie Greig Conspiracy Supporter

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/01/2015

The Stereotypical Hollie Greig Conspiracy Supporter.

This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

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I was interested to read a comment on a partyicularly foolish YouTube article reporting Robert Green’s plea of guilty in court on the 21-Jan-2015, which was particularly misleading and ill informed at best and merely dishonest in potential.

The posting was most interesting as it so exemplified the majority of those who have been duped by the lies of Anne Greig & Robert Green in their abuse of Hollie Greig for their own ends – those who are still making fools of themselves despite the irrefutable fact that the hoax they had foist on the publoc about allegations of sexual abuse and that her uncle Robert (Ray) Greig’s suicide was some sort of murder – a conspiracy theory for which there is not one shred of evidence in the face of death certificate, autopsy, police reports and more that ALL show every reason why this was a suicide.

This comment placed on the YouTube web site at:
https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=PydXRHhtIC0

So typifies the style and behaviour of the cult following of the tinfoil hat brigade still following and promoting the lies that I felt it worthy of reproduction:

MALCOLM KONRAD OGILVY,
I notice you have copied the other conversation from here onto your facebook account. I have to say, looking at your facebook I can’t help but feel a bit sorry for you.
I read a bit about the false allegations you made concerning your own daughter and comments you made about your ex partner.
To give you the benefit of the doubt I looked at her facebook. I don’t know if she was ever a washout like you but if she was, she certainly doesn’t look it now.
Maybe that’s what eats you up. She looks clean, healthy and happy. They have a lovely little family unit going on with positive comments to her friends. In fact, it looks like your average facebook account.
Compare that to yours.
Your facebook is the ramblings of a deranged manchild obsessed with paedophilia. You have arguments and paranoia towards “friends” and accuse anyone who disagrees with you of being a paedophile.
You misread and misinterpret documents you have concerning your daughters case.
You even coached her to say phrases which would imply she had been abused, and put it on video. Sexualizing your daughter like that is tantamount to sexual abuse in itself.
Perhaps the saddest part of all is you have no recent pictures of yourself. Just pictures from a time when you actually were a decent looking lad.
Now you look like Gollum after a 3 week bender in Amsterdam…like you should be asking people for a spare pound for your “bus”.
Just like Gollum you have become dishevelled, dark, twisted, paranoid and obsessive. It shows that on some level even you don’t want to be what you are now, harking back to times gone by.
Your videos are of you bullying middle aged innocent women outside court. It’s cowardly and pathetic.
You have a video of your mum and don’t seem to realise that the rolling of eyes and sighing is actually because she has had to listen to your incessant drivel for years now.
Even on your website, which is supposed to be about justice for a girl with Downs Syndrome, you call someone a “MONG”.
I mean, what the actual fuck is wrong with you?
This life and world owes you nothing.
All your problems are from within you and only you can change them. If you don’t you risk losing everything you care about.
I don’t think you have what it takes but i’d love for you to come back here in the future and rub it in my face by proving me wrong.
I have a challenge for you Malcolm.
You copied the other conversation to facebook, I challenge you to copy this too.
I challenge you to ask your friends to be 100% honest with you and tell you if i’m wrong or right.
If the world really is against you, or that you are your own worst enemy.
I may have seemed harsh in what I said but that’s because nobody else seems to give you the kick up the arse you need.
I have probably been more honest with you in this single comment than your groupies have ever.
The beauty is Malcolm, you know in your own head whether I’m right or wrong.
Therefore, if you want to know which of your “friends” really are friends, then take the challenge and see who is honest.
Allow the honest ones to help you.
Good Luck.

I found it quite incredible just howmany of the inadequates supporting the lies of sexual abuse of Hollie and the suicide of Roy Greg this comment could have been about – in fact almost all of the bitter twisted conspiracy theworists even including those making money from the scam, either directly or indirectly like Robert Green, Peter Eyre, David Icke, Belinda McKenzie, Brian Gerrish and also those who have built their sad sick lives around their particular interests in paedophelia and the sexual abuse of children and those who may dare to seek the truth rather than perpetuate the conspiracies and fantasies like Matt Quinn, George McKendrick, Sandy Fox, and so many others – including those too ashamed of themselves to use their real names!

I await an accurate plausible soundly sourced report on Robert Green’s one honest day in court so far, in which he pleaded guilty on the 21-Jan-2015 – I will then publish the report and the details of the summary and sentencing on 04-Mar-20125.

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> The Fantasies of Anne Greig, Robert Green & others

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/01/2014

> The Fantasies of Anne Greig, Robert Green & others

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Please note the date of the original article was 17-Jun-2013

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It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

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HOLLIE GREIG: The ‘devastating fantasies’ of mother Mrs Anne Greig – and the lies of Robert Green and Belinda McKenzie

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Post  MJC on Thu 8 Aug 2013 – 19:56

This report was published about a year ago, but hasn’t perhaps had the exposure it should have had in England.

It’s the best write-up of a hoax that’s deceived tens of thousands into believing that Hollie was repeatedly raped over the course of 14 years at the home of a Sheriff’s sister by up to 31 different people, including leading Scottish judges…

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One devastating fantasy: the impact of an internet scandal

by David Leask, Reporter — Sunday 17 June 2012

Seven children labelled victims, 22 tarnished lives, a business forced to close, a nation’s reputation tarnished.

1: THE CAMPAIGN

IT is the biggest Scottish story on the internet.

A girl with Down’s Syndrome portrayed as the sex slave of a ring of paedophiles for a decade and a half and the victim of a cover-up reaching to the highest law officers and politicians in the land.

This, at least, is the online story of Hollie Greig, a vulnerable young woman who has become the poster girl for conspiracy theorists around the world.

The real story is quite different … but every bit as devastating, according to those smeared by what the Crown Office last night called “unfounded allegations”.

Twenty-two people in and around Aberdeen have been accused of being paedophiles by campaigners styling themselves as “Hollie’s Army”.

Those named include a prominent sheriff who supposedly abused children at the home of his sister, despite the fact he does not have a sister.

And in a clear breach of laws designed to protect victims of sex crimes, another seven people have been named as rape victims along with Hollie.

Four of the “victims” would have been in their 20s at the time of the abuse. Two police investigations have resulted in no charges.

Only one person has been convicted in connection with Hollie Greig: a 66-year-old campaigner from Warrington called Robert Green.

He was jailed earlier this year for harassing those he falsely accused of paedophilia.

Green’s conviction did not make headlines in Scotland. But it did spark international attention on websites such as that of David Icke, the former BBC sports presenter who thinks the world is ruled by lizards.

Green says he received 2000 letters of support from 35 countries while in jail.

His story – now wrapped together with that of Hollie and her mother Anne Greig – also inspired American talk radio shockjocks who rail against the world’s ruling “Illuminati”.

Green has appeared on radio in England, Sweden, Italy and South Africa. Some of these radio shows have joined online bloggers in rubbishing Scotland’s justice system, with Hollie’s case being linked to the Dunblane massacre, the Shirley McKie fingerprint row and even the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Mainstream Scottish journalists have been accused of suppressing the story.

The campaign’s battle cry is “Google Hollie Greig”. If you do, you get more than 400,000 results.

One is the official webpage of the campaign. It compares Hollie’s story to the Dreyfus case – arguably Europe’s highest-profile miscarriage of justice – in which a Jewish officer in the French army was wrongly convicted of spying in the late 1800s.

Another site headlines on Hollie “as an abuse victim of the Scottish Establishment”.

2: THE TARGETS

The jailing of Robert Green – the man who gave the loudest voice to the accusations – did nothing to diminish the online conspiracy theory.

Why not? That is what one widow who was accused of abuse wants to know. Speaking last night, the woman, who does not wish to be named, said: “We are the victims in this.

“We are the ones who have been falsely accused. A man has been jailed. Yet this thing just won’t go away. What is wrong with these people?”

Her friend Sylvia Major knows how devastating it is to live in the shadow of lies and false accusations.

Few of her neighbours in Ferryhill take the claims seriously. The quiet Aberdeen neighbourhood is home to many of the innocent people accused of being part of the abuse network.

Major, a hairdresser, had to close her shop and take early retirement because of the “whispers”. She said: “It has been hellish. It was also claimed that my late husband was a paedophile too, and my kids were really upset.”

Major’s story is typical of the many people falsely accused of being part of the Hollie Greig conspiracy. The thing she finds most galling is that despite being distantly related to Hollie, she only knew the girl for a short time.

“I saw Hollie when she was born but I didn’t see her again till I met her mother in the street when she must have been nearly 18.”

Over the period of a few years in the late nineties, Major would meet Hollie and her mother – now known as Anne Greig – for a gin and tonic at the Ferryhill House Hotel. Then the pair disappeared from her life.

Major is depicted by scores of websites and blogs as a core figure in Hollie’s abuse, said to date from 1985 to 2000, along with her late husband Terry.

In real life, he was a civilian fingerprints officer at Grampian Police. In the internet conspiracy, Major’s partner was a “senior police officer” and her children, like Hollie, were shared by a paedophile ring including the sheriff, a headteacher and social workers.

One of the children abused, according to Green and his conspiracy, was Major’s daughter Cath, named by an online site that ignored the normal legally binding anonymity granted to the victims – proven or otherwise – of sex crimes. Cath was already an adult, and a successful footballer, by the time her mother made friends with Hollie and Anne Greig.

“I wasn’t a victim of child sex abuse,” the 37-year-old said yesterday. “I was playing half-back for Scotland and travelling the world.”

Wyn Dragon Smith, a friend of Greig and Major, was named as a child sex abuser on the internet. “It was ludicrous,” the 69-year-old said yesterday. “It was only later I realised what this was going to mean for me.” Dragon Smith’s health has suffered. So have her finances: she lost a lodger. Her sons – now in their 30s – were also named as those abused.

In the eyes of the campaigners, they are supposed to be victims. But that hasn’t stopped their car and motorbike registrations being put on the internet.

3: THE ‘COVER-UP’

The campaign believes the “establishment cover-up” stretches up to the Lord Advocate’s office. One target was Elish Angiolini, who stepped down as Lord Advocate last year but worked as area procurator-fiscal in Aberdeen in the summer of 2000.

Angiolini has sought a non-harassment order against Green, banning him from approaching her or stalking her online.

That would give her the same protection as the accused sheriff and 15 other supposed “paedophiles” or “paedophile victims” who have been granted court orders against him.

Many, including Dragon Smith, only learned they were named by Greig and Green in 2009 or 2010.

One only found out she had been accused after Green put letters through doors around Ferryhill.

It was those letters – and related internet campaigns – that saw him detained by Grampian Police for committing a breach of the peace.

He was brought in while campaigning as a candidate in the 2010 General Election, despite being effectively banned by interdict from entering Aberdeenshire due to his pursuit of the Hollie conspiracy.

The Crown Office last night said: “The procurator-fiscal at Aberdeen raised proceedings against Green for making unfounded allegations against a number of people via leaflets and the internet, amounting to a campaign of harassment against them.

“The use of the internet to harass members of the public is deplorable and unacceptable. Threatening behaviour of this nature is menacing and is a form of stalking.”

Green is now out of prison, but tagged. He claims his case, delayed as he changed solicitors, was one of the most expensive breaches of the peace in Scottish history.

He regrets nothing. He told the Sunday Herald he was protecting children from suspected paedophiles.

4: THE MOTHER

Wyn Dragon Smith believes Anne Greig, with whom she was very close in the late 1990s, is a very vulnerable woman. Nevertheless, she is furious with her.

“I loved her to bits,” she said yesterday. “I believe she has mental health issues but how could she put her best friend on a list like this? She is the source of this evil lie.”

The Sunday Herald yesterday approached Greig for comment through Green, but she did not respond.

Greig was sectioned in September 2000 in Aberdeen, a week or so after she took Hollie to a police station to name a list of abusers. Inevitably, her supporters believe she was hospitalised as part of the cover-up.

Green last night insisted Greig was quite sane, and produced documents showing assessments from psychiatrists agreeing with this.

However, social services in England, where Hollie and her mother now live, are worried about the family. The local council is currently involved in complex legal proceedings involving Hollie.

Campaigners say this is an action to have her declared mentally incapable. They staged a protest outside the Royal Courts of Justice in February during a connected case.

Greig and Green are barred by an English injunction from taking Hollie to demonstrations.

5: THE ‘ARMY’ DESERTERS

Tom, a forty-something accountant from Aberdeen, along with several other former members of “Hollie’s Army”, has turned his back on the campaign and apologised to those they accused – in person.

The growing group of former Green allies has now launched an internet counter-attack. Last week they published a YouTube video of Major and Dragon Smith telling their side of the story and – perhaps most devastating – the 2008 report by the Scotland’s Police Complaints Commissioner saying there was no evidence to support any of the campaign’s claims.

They are not the first to split away from Hollie’s Army. The campaign reacts by suggesting former friends were spies. Its official website explains how to spot what it calls “MI5, trolls and disinformation agents.”

It says: “Hollie’s abusers are part of a much bigger group that has tentacles throughout the echelons of the British Establishment, which is why from the offset Hollie’s campaign has attracted their most trusted agents.”

The site also invites donations through a Paypal account, which it says will help fund a private prosecution of “Hollie’s abusers”.

Among the protesters supporting the campaign are members of the British branch of the Truth Movement, many of whom believe the US government and not al-Qaeda terrorists attacked New York’s Twin Towers on September 11, 2001.

“The Truthers jumped on the Hollie Greig case,” explained Tom. “In fact, they used to promote the Hollie case more than their 9/11 theories. Basically, we are talking about people who think that Scotland is run by Satanists and paedophiles.”

6: THE REPORTERS

Green likes to draw parallels between Hollie’s fate and that of Stephen Lawrence, the London teenager murdered by racists only convicted 19 years after the crime.

One of the reporters closest to the Lawrence family was Mark Daly. Now BBC Scotland’s investigations correspondent, Daly looked in to the Hollie case in 2009.

He wasn’t the first investigative reporter in Scotland to do so. Like others who had investigated, Daly – initially intrigued by the fact Hollie had received compensation – dropped the story, unconvinced.

The result was an astonishing outburst of intense online abuse.

“I hope somebody rapes you,” one internet poster told Daly. “You talk pish.”

The journalist explained his decision last night. “I knew that the vast majority of these allegations would be impossible to prove,” he said. “Then I became part of the ‘cover-up’.

“I had apparently been threatened by the government and my bosses at the BBC to drop the story or I would lose my job. It was insulting and preposterous.”

Daly received hate mail. Members of Hollie’s Army protested outside BBC studios.

“The truth,” Daly added, “is that the claims of the paedophile ring were based on a tissue of false assertions.

“Hollie’s campaign was fronted by people claiming to be ‘truth seekers’ and ‘investigators’.

“They claimed they were doing this for Hollie and were among the last champions of free speech in Scotland.

“But their campaign is about the most flagrant abuse of free speech that I can think of. And as for the welfare of Hollie, it seems to me that was the last thing these people had on their minds.”

Aberdeen 2000: how the allegations started

THE claim that Hollie Greig had been sexually abused was first reported to Grampian Police by her mother in 2000.

Robert Green passionately believes the claim is true. He said: “Hollie has never had any possible motive to say anything that is not the truth. The same cannot be said for any of those who deny her allegations.”

Green says his views are supported by the fact that the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority (CICA) awarded Hollie £13,500.

The CICA was told a doctor had examined Hollie and found evidence that she had had sex – although there was no evidence to suggest with whom.

A Grampian Police inspector told the authority that “on the balance of probability” the young woman had been the victim of abuse at some point in the past, but said there “was never a sufficiency of corroborative evidence to make a prosecution viable”.

The police told the CICA the allegations from Hollie’s mother that a “large number of people” had been involved in the abuse “were difficult to find evidence for”.

CICA – using a burden of proof far lower than that which would be required for a criminal conviction, “beyond reasonable doubt” – decided to make the award in 2005.

They say Hollie reported that her uncle had seen her abused by another relative. However, Hollie’s uncle, Roy or Robert Greig, took his own life in 1997. His car caught fire near Balmedie, north of Aberdeen, as he tried to kill himself with exhaust fumes. A passer-by pulled him out of the car and resuscitated him.

The Sunday Herald understands a post-mortem examination showed Greig had broken ribs and a bruise to the back of his head. Both are consistent with attempts to revive him. Green and Greig believed he was murdered to stop him talking.

Law enforcement agencies regard the matter as closed.

The allegations of a paedophile ring have been investigated twice.

Grampian Police interviewed Hollie and her mother several times from 2000 onward and filed a report with the procurator-fiscal in Aberdeen.

Through Interpol, they traced a relative of Hollie who was questioned overseas under caution, but released without charge due to “insufficient evidence”.

Different officers re-investigated the claims in 2009 after the case blew up on the internet. They filed another report to the procurator-fiscal.

Many in “Hollie’s Army” believe reports to the fiscal amount to evidence of wrongdoing, but there is no suggestion the reports contained such evidence.

Greig formally complained to Grampian Police about the first investigation, as well as about a series of other allegations she made, including the murder of her brother.

The complaint most cited by her supporters is the failure of police to interview more than one of the 22 people named by Hollie. However, Greig’s complaints were investigated and dismissed. The force’s handling of the complaints was upheld by Scotland’s independent police watchdog in 2008.

Grampian, according to an anonymised response to Greig published by Scotland’s Police Complaints Commissioner (PCCS), carried out “background checks on all the individuals concerned to establish if there was any other basis upon which to proceed- there was nothing found as a result of these checks which supported the position.”

The anonymised published response from Grampian Police to Greig’s complaint also that revealed officers – and a social worker attending the interview – had concerns about Hollie’s list of abusers when she first revealed it.

The report said: “Further questions to help establish whether X [Hollie] understood what telling the truth meant did not result in a position where those present were comfortable with accuracy of the allegations being made.”

The Crown Office last night repeated its official line regarding the case: that after two police investigations, its counsel decided there was “insufficient credible, reliable and admissible evidence” to justify criminal proceedings.

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You will find some 33 pages of comments but below I have posted the most recent page though you are welcome to plough through all 33 pages if you wish.

Clearly on THIS web site I have absolutely no wish to obfuscate genuine comment, however I do choose not to place links to sites which I consider to be dishonest, corrupt or a pack of lies such as that of Brian Gerrish, Belinda McKenzie, Robert Green, David Icke, Matt Quinn and similar liars, criminals or abusers.


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Post  No Fate Worse Than De’Ath on Thu 8 Aug 2013 – 20:26

This is the correct website address.
 
http://www.theholliegreigcoverup.net/

I’m embarrassed to admit that I did believe Hollie Greig’s mother for a while. What first made me doubt her story was seeing and hearing Hollie herself. She is supposed to have recounted in graphic detail everything that happened to her over many years, all the names, dates and places.

While I am sure that some Down’s Syndrome sufferers are capable of doing this, it is patently obvious that Hollie is not. She barely understands anything that’s said to her and, when she comes up with a wrong answer, her mother intervenes and claims that she said something else.

In my opinion, Anne Greig is a very disturbed woman indeed.

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Post  Châtelaine on Thu 8 Aug 2013 – 20:35

It makes me angry, NFWTD, because a flimsy case like this is pulling the carpet underneath a lot of genuine ones. IMO, of course.
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Post  No Fate Worse Than De’Ath on Thu 8 Aug 2013 – 20:38

That’s my opinion too, Chatelaine.

There can be no doubt that there are child molesters in all walks of life (with the ones in high places getting away with their crimes) and that’s what made the story believable at first.

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Post  Châtelaine on Thu 8 Aug 2013 – 20:42

Oh, yes, NFWTD, there are miserable, despicable creatures in any walk of life. And those are the ones we should get and call to justice.
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Post  Cherry Blossom on Fri 9 Aug 2013 – 10:31

Over the years I have read articals about Hollie Greig and tended to believe them especialy when she had the support of well known people, Annie Lennock, Bill Maloney, If all the alligations were a hoak then the manipulation of a vunerable child for all those years is appalling. I just hope it’s not part of a high powered cover up. There are only two people who know the real truth and thats Hollie and her mother.

In this artical it amazed me how the McCanns were mentioned.

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Several years ago, Denis and Greg Mackie went to live in Portugal. On 8th May 2007, immediately following Madeleine McCann`s disappearance, Anne Greig, accompanied by a victim`s support witness, went to her now local police station in Shrewsbury to tell them to alert the Portuguese Police, as despite the proven case of paedophile abuse, neither of the Mackies had a record of any kind. The McCann team has accepted that the Mackies ought to have been questioned immediately. It is now understood that the British Police failed to pass on these details to their Portuguese counterparts.

Hence, the official cover up has even extended to detracting from the Madeleine McCann investigation. The family home in Portugal is over 100 miles away from where Madeleine McCann disappeared – there is no evidence to substantiate Roberts other claims.

http://www.theholliegreigcoverup.net/the-hoax…..html

Has anyone else come across the names Denis and Greg Mackie before, apart from the Hollie case?

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Post  No Fate Worse Than De’Ath on Fri 9 Aug 2013 – 15:09

I came across the Greig case in late 2009, around the same time that I belatedly realised that all was not what it seemed with the McCann one.

I really did think for a while that the same high-ranking Scottish paedophiles might be involved in both cases when I knew that Anne Greig’s ex-husband and son were in Portugal. Now I do not believe that there is any connection apart from – dare I say it – the common denominator of an unhinged hate-filled woman hell-bent on getting revenge on those who don’t believe her.

We have a member here who is one of the owners of the HG cover-up site. I have sent her a private message asking if she has a link to an interview which shows that Hollie has very little understanding and, in my opinion, could never have provided the information which it is claimed that she did. It used to be on the website but isn’t now.

If I hear from her, I’ll let you know.

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Post  marconi on Fri 9 Aug 2013 – 15:41

when wil the McCanns give an interview demanding the British government to search for Madeleine in a forest in Vietnam?
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Post  Maggs Shaw on Fri 9 Aug 2013 – 17:55

No Fate Worse Than De’Ath wrote:I came across the Greig case in late 2009, around the same time that I belatedly realised that all was not what it seemed with the McCann one.

I really did think for a while that the same high-ranking Scottish paedophiles might be involved in both cases when I knew that Anne Greig’s ex-husband and son were in Portugal. Now I do not believe that there is any connection apart from – dare I say it – the common denominator of an unhinged hate-filled woman hell-bent on getting revenge on those who don’t believe her.

We have a member here who is one of the owners of the HG cover-up site. I have sent her a private message asking if she has a link to an interview which shows that Hollie has very little understanding and, in my opinion, could never have provided the information which it is claimed that she did. It used to be on the website but isn’t now.

If I hear from her, I’ll let you know.

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Post  No Fate Worse Than De’Ath on Fri 9 Aug 2013 – 19:48

marconi wrote:when wil the McCanns give an interview demanding the British government to search for Madeleine in a forest in Vietnam?

This does not appear to be on the right topic!

Maggs Shaw, many thanks for letting me know where to find the interview. This is a link to the relevant part, between 3.00 and 4.00.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwPsUafWuTw

This is only one extract of a very long interview with Anne Greig and Robert Green and I haven’t seen all of it. If there’s anyone who can stomach listening to Anne Greig’s fantasies, I’ll be interested to know if Hollie says anything else.

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Sonia Poulton’s interesting insight into the liar David Icke

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Sonia Poulton’s interesting insight into the liar David Icke

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This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE CLICK HERE

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this posting of a factual account of her dealings with David Icke gives an interesting insight into the vile man’s style and behaviour.

Some may remember that when he published unfounded lies about me in an effort to defame me and denigrate the facts I was publishing some years ago to expose the lies surrounding Hollie Greig as invented by Anne Greig and Robert Green and widely promoted by Robert Green, Belinda McKenzie, George McKendrick, David Icke, Matt Quinn and many others.

As is well documented I was the first individual to speak out exposing the scam , as soon as I was able to show beyond reasonable doubt that I had been lied to and had misguidedly for a short period promoted the hoax on behalf of Anne Greig and later Robert Green.

For having shown that the entire story was a tissue of lies, conjecture and fantasy put about by wicked and criminal individuals not only did I receive death threats and cyber bullying as can be found by a brief search of the internet.

David Icke was amongst those seeking to promote lies about me and although I had a cast iron case my solicitor and barrister advised me that it was probable that David Icke would prove to be ‘a man of straw’ having sheltered his assets either off shore or under various subterfuges and that I would find myself liable for costs (considerable) with no means of recouping them from the odious low life David Icke.

There was also the possibility that in view of the idiotic nature of many of his other claims as with his claim to be some sort of second coming or messiah and his fantasies about lizards and the moon, just to mention two – he might have an defense of unsound mind!

I decided to drop the case as clearly those who knew me were well aware of the pack of lies he and others were peddling, and the opinions of others about me were of no consequence to me!

The same was also true of the clear case showing the dishonest efforts of low lifes such as Belinda McKenzie, Matt Quinn, George McKendrick and others of even less consequence or credibility.

That David Icke is a liar, a cheat, a bully, a scoundrel and self serving is irrefutable – it would seem that Sonia Poulter has reason to believe he may well also be dishonest thief:

SONIA POULTON 

I have been overwhelmed by the support I have received following my departure from The People’s Voice on Monday, January 6, 2014. 

This is my statement of events. 

During the brief period when I worked as a full-time journalist and presenter at The People’s Voice office in Wembley – every week day, sometimes 12 hours a day for the period from November 18th to January 6th – various volunteers and staff made alarming comments to me about the financial accounting at The People’s Voice. 

I was told that public money had been ‘squandered’, ‘spent unwisely’ and ‘in an easy-come, easy-go manner’. I was informed that various pieces of equipment, including a handheld camera, had ‘gone missing’. It was alleged that money had been paid to someone who did not warrant being paid and who shared a property in Wembley with David – amongst other accusations. 

Given these suspicions I was not happy with David Icke and Sean Adl-Tabatabai – TPV’s station manager – suggesting a second telethon on January 3, 2014. This was to raise more money for TPV following a two-week Christmas break from live programming. 

I realised that the public, who had already donated far in excess of £300,000, was losing some goodwill towards TPV – and for a number of reasons. 

I felt, as did other members of staff who said it to me – but did not have the courage to say it to David Icke directly – that all financial dealings should be public and transparent. 

I believe, and conveyed this to David Icke, Sean ADL and Liz Roberts – in their respective roles as Station Manager and Production Manager – that all money paid out – including expenses and staff wages should be published monthly. This idea never progressed beyond the asking stage. 

This, and other issues reached a head for me on Friday night when I was asked to take part in the telethon to raise money even though I didn’t know entirely where the previous public money had gone to. 

I should add I refused point blank to take part in the first telethon in early November before the station had even launched. Not only was I unimpressed with some of the content of that telethon, as a representation of TPV, but I felt there was something wrong in asking the public for more money BEFORE they had seen even one programme. 

So it was that I was not happy to do this latest telethon but I did it because I wanted TPV to succeed. 

Despite my misgivings, I put my heart into it including organising a Question Time-style panel and a film recorded on New Year’s Eve about people who are doing important activism to make positive changes to our world. 

I was, and remain, proud of this input – and output – and all the people involved in making this happen and all for only the petrol money to cover the filming. 

After the telethon, I slept badly on Friday night and by Saturday morning I had sent an e-mail to David Icke outlining my serious concerns about the finances at The People’s Voice. 

I heard nothing back from him. This was unusual because David is not only a prolific writer but he has always responded within hours, sometimes minutes, of my sending him an e-mail. 

I arrived at the TPV office on Monday about 10am. David’s office door, a glass-type partition, was closed and I tapped on it. He refused to look up at me and kept staring at the screen in front of him. 

Undaunted, I opened the door, said ‘good morning’ and asked if I could have a talk with him. He refused. He said he had to wait until Sean arrived before we could talk. I asked him when that would be. He said any minute. 

Sean arrived about 45 minutes later. Liz Roberts, Head of Production, came to me and said they were ready for the meeting. Then, somewhat oddly, she led me to the darkened, sound-proofed studio where the music and performance segment of TPV is recorded. 

I was uncomfortable with this as I was uncertain why we were meeting in here seeing as David normally conducts meetings in his or Sean ADL’s office, both at the end of the TPV main office. 

Several chairs had been placed in the darkened studio in a semi-circle and I sat down on the chair that was most set apart from the others. Sean ADL took a seat and Liz Roberts went to get David Icke. It was silent between Sean and I and we waited a minute or so until David Icke joined us. 

I could see that David was already furious when he arrived in the room. He looked how I had seen him on several other occasions when he has lost his temper with members of staff. He sat down on the chair directly opposite me and in the middle of Sean ADL and Liz Roberts and I said, ‘who’s going to start?’ 

David said that seeing as I was the one with the allegations, it should be me. 

I told him that for the past few weeks people in the office – including volunteers and paid staff – had been coming to me and making troubling accusations about misappropriation of the funds. 

I had heard stories of nights out on expenses, of many rounds of drinks and food being bought in pubs, of takeaways and alcohol being ordered to the People’s Voice by – and for – paid staff members. 

There were even more outrageous accusations told to me including people who received money from TPV who had some personal involvement with David Icke. 

I told David, Sean ADL and Liz Roberts that TPV was struggling financially because public goodwill towards TPV was at a low ebb because, amongst other things, a lack of transparency. 

I said that I felt it personally important to see how the money had been spent up to this point – and not least because David always agreed with me about the importance of transparency in all dealings. 

David’s voice was raised and he demanded to hear more of my allegations and who they involved. 

I felt that this was some kind of a trap and I said I wasn’t going to name names at this stage and that I just wanted to see where the money had been spent. He refused. He said I would have to wait until the end of the year. He was furious that I dared to question the funds. 

His entire attitude was indignant and outraged by my request. I asked him if I would need to put in a Freedom of Information request to get the information from The People’s Voice regarding accounting. 

I was shocked by the corporate front that David Icke, Liz Roberts and Sean ADL were showing me with regard what had happened with the money and I said that I believed TPV was operating no differently – with it’s hierarchy of decently paid management, numerous unpaid volunteers and no accountability – to the corporations we despised. 

It was at this point that David Icke lost his temper completely. He started shouting that I was the most divisive character that he had ever met in the media and that everyone hated me at TPV. He asked Liz Roberts to back this statement up but she couldn’t. Given that Liz has previously stated in public in the office that I am ‘an example to all of us’, I didn’t feel that she could really back up his accusation with any credibility. 

This emotional attack from David alarmed me greatly. I had only asked for financial transparency and not only was he refusing to let me have this information but he tried to use intimidation techniques to deflect me from pursuing it too. 

David Icke tells everyone I am a PROPER journalist. His words. When I am on air I am told he walks from office to office, pointing at the screen and saying ‘that’s real journalism’. The big problem here is 

David Icke is only happy when I am investigating anyone or anything other than him and The People’s Voice. 

I am not saying that anyone has carried out fraud at TPV. I have no proof of that. What I am saying, however, is that I believe there exists a cavalier attitude, at times, to the spending of public funds. 

At TPV I have seen the letters of people who donate their hard-to-come-by cash. Children giving up their pocket money and pensioners contributing part of their pension. It greatly upsets me to see the laissez faire attitude towards their money. 

The statement on my departure released by TPV and written by David Icke – according to Liz Roberts in correspondence with presenter Barrie Sharpe – was designed to smear me. 

None of what was said even came up in the meeting yesterday morning. David Icke’s statement was an affront not only to me but to anyone who supports me and to anyone who donated their time, efforts and money to TPV. Thank goodness so many people have seen right through it and reacted accordingly. 

I would be more than happy to debate TPV with David Icke, Sean Adl-Tabatabai and Liz Roberts on camera and in a neutral environment. I have nothing to hide. 

It is not me who seeks to take people into a darkened room away from other people in the office at the point when the person wants to address important questions about alleged financial mismanagement. I am, and remain, transparent in my dealings. 

I am informed by a member of staff that there have been orders to ‘remove me’. This includes taking down a great deal of information I have conveyed on film at TPV including a video we shot on New Years Eve about children being taken into care and about people campaigning against fracking. 

David Icke says The People’s Voice is about ‘the content and not the personality’. If that is so, why would he have sanctioned the removal of ‘the content’ that I contributed to The People’s Voice? 

Content, I might add, that I have already copied and feel totally at liberty to post on to Youtube. I believe that the public, who paid for this, is entitled to that and it should not be stopped because of the vindictive behaviour of people who claim to know better. 

I am in no doubt that David Icke shouted at me in the meeting because, rather than accept that there may be a problem of a certain culture growing at TPV, he chose to deflect the blame for his failings onto me and my character. 

I acknowledge that I am capable of being a fiery character. I’ve said it on camera. It’s part of who I am but it is entirely wrong – as they suggest in the official statement about my departure – to suggest that I don’t treat people with respect. 

You only have to look at the wonderful things that have been said about me following my departure from TPV. I am quite blown away by the strength of support. 

So I have to ask: why would David Icke attempt to smear my character? I only asked where The People’s Voice money had gone to? 

Hardly an unreasonable question, I thought, given myself – and many others – were contributing great amounts of time and money to making TPV happen. 

I’m not looking for a medal but I did more than work at TPV, I have also put my hand in my own pocket and have funded a hire car, petrol, pictures and food for volunteers. 

I am far from financially wealthy and I am a single parent with only my income coming in, but I have contributed what I could because I believed in what TPV was capable of. 

I am deeply upset what has come to pass. It has taken me a day to compose my thoughts into any semblance of order. I believed in the capability of TPV. I don’t anymore. As it stands, it is not capable of being the true media we so desperately need in this world. 

When I was sat in the meeting yesterday morning I realised that these three people before me were not capable of creating an alternative media. I knew that if I were to stay a moment longer I was in danger of damaging my own hard-won reputation of honesty and misleading the public too. I could not do that and that is why I left. 

I am also upset because there are people at TPV whom I have become very fond of. Good people who want to make a better world but who are unaware – or don’t know how to deal with – the real issues of injustice right under their noses. 

It won’t stop me trying to create that media I can imagine, though. I have gained a great deal of understanding of what not to do and I have plans right now how to implement my own show. I will only do this if it can be completely transparent because that is what I believe we need more of in this world. I thought TPV could offer that. It didn’t. 

For the record, David Icke needs to understand that respect – as his official statement about me calls for – is a two-way street. He is so used to being all-powerful in his environment that he responds badly to being challenged. 

Despite repeatedly saying that ‘presenters have free-will’ David Icke did not hesitate to make known some of his dissatisfactions with me inviting on guests whom he had fallen out with in the past. 

I witnessed that side of him and so did Sean ADL and Liz Roberts. They sat back and allowed it to happen. That’s why they are still there. They do not challenge him because to do so would challenge the comfortable and unaccountable existence at TPV that they have come to enjoy. 

Both Sean ADL and Liz Roberts publicly have stated that TPV may not survive beyond the end of January unless the station gets more money in. Well, as two of the people who have access to TPV’s funds, they would know. 

As of this afternoon I have not received the requested information on financial accounting. How difficult can it be to show how much has been donated to The People’s Voice and where and by whom it has been spent? 

Upon receipt of the information from The People’s Voice, I will report on my findings just as I report on the behaviour of other organisations. 

The silence from the station, in response to the extraordinary support of people who are appalled at the statement issued by David Icke on behalf of The People’s Voice, speaks volumes. 

This is my statement of the events of yesterday at The People’s Voice with David Icke, Liz Roberts and Sean Adl-Tabatabai. I have sent this statement to all these three people as well as posting it on my website and on social network sites.

Sonia Poulton, January 7th, 2014.

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some Q&As Regarding The Hollie Greig ‘Stories’

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 31/12/2013

some Q&As Regarding The Hollie Greig ‘Stories’

This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE CLICK HERE

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18 Responses to
“> A GUEST POST
Collating Much of the Hollie Greig Fantasy/Scam”
which can be read in its original form at:
CLICK HERE

First may I make it absolutely clear that the post in question was NOT written by me and is a >GUEST POST< by a third party, which I have hosted on my blog in the belief that it is by and large accurate and casts a third party credibility on my belief that due to almost total lack of admissible evidence, lies, distortions, misrepresentation and dishonesty there is absolutely no credible reason to believe the ‘stories’ concocted by Anne MacKie (aka Anne Greig wife of Denis MacKei), the convicted criminal Robert Green, the obsessive Stuart Usher, the discreditted conspiracy theorist Brian Gerrish, the liar and self promoting scoundrel David Icke, the proven liar and pervert Matt Quinn and other charlatans.

I incline to believe that the third party author of the article in question may well rather over egg the belief that the Freemasons underpin the saga that Anne MacKie and her associates concocted but evil as the Freemasons are in some instances, I would contend that the ‘stories’ have been relatively easy for scoundrels to promote in the face of a slow moving and meticulous Public Sector and the desire of many to believe that people are fundamentally honest when in fact it is clear this is not true of those promoting the Hollie Greig scam.

I clearly exhonurate the unfortunate Hollie Greig from any blame in the construction of the scam as it is abundantly clear that she is the victim of both abuse and exploitation by those who have promoted the scam, and clearly she lacks the mental capacity to differentiate between right and wrong, fact and fiction and the grooming and misquoting of her by the scoundrels who surround her.

The conversation started out from the abusive and foul mouthed claim of the odious self styled liars & obfuscators at so called ‘Hollie greig justice’ (stet):

  1. Hollie greig justice said

    13711 words of shite by a maniac


    • Hi,

      this shows all too well the standard of debate of the Hollie Demanda Justice team and their foul mouthed determination to bully the gullible into believing their vile abuse of Hollie Greig is in some way justified.

      The saving grace is that it is clear that due to her mental capacity the unfortunate Hollie is oblivious of how she is being exploited.

      To date there has not been one shred of admissible evidence to support the stories that have so readily justified claims that they are all distortions, lies and inventions.

      Again and again I have challenged the advocates of the Hollie Greig fantasy to open, free, fair and decent debate – having published every document which they had quoted they were left only with issuing death threats and abuse to try to protect their implausible stories and then finally devote themselves to hacking the Hollie Greig Stolen Kids site to remove the facts that had clearly exposed their lies.

      Even to this day they dare not provide the documents that were published on the site and to protect their story, paedophiles and their own risible claims they publish lies and vile childish drivel to seek to defame those seeking the truth and exposing their dishonesty.

      Fortunately the Courts, police and media have the measure of their evil behaviour and have largely acted accordingly.

      Regards,
      Greg_L-W.

  2. js42uk said [JonStevenson42]

    no what it shows is a pithy and accurate critique of 13700 words of utter drivel


    • Hi,

      so just to prove my point someone calling himself Jon Stevenson turns up with more abuse – Not a fact to back his claim just an unpleasant and abusive manner, so very common amongst those desperately trying to keep the Hollie Greig fantasies afloat.

      Do note that to date not one single shred of admissible evidence around which a legal case could begin to be built has ever been produced in support of the ‘stories’ being peddled about Hollie Greig.

      Just abuse and malicious lies and bullying of anyone who dares to show that the entire story is founded on lies, distortion and fantasy. Unable to support the stories with anything approaching a plausible presentation of facts and admissible evidence the only route they seem able to take is to lie and try to defame those providing the facts that show the entire issue to be little more than a deliberate and criminal scam.

      I am the first to admit that to start with I was trusting enough to have been taken in by the lies of Anne Greig and Robert Green and tried to help them by setting up a blog site at their request, as a part of the Stolen Kids effort to expose paedophiles and the secret family Courts.

      Regards,
      Greg_L-W.

  3. PY said [JonStevenson42]

    yet ye still NAME them ,bully boy


    • Hi,

      Jon Stevenson’s comment is sadly fairly unintelligible – however if he posts again without being abusive or attempting to defame when he feels better in the morning possibly he will make more sense!

      Regards,
      Greg_L-W.

      • pyrite said [JonStevenson42]

        So WHY do you illegally name the accused and the abused on this blog,simple question?


      • Hi,

        were you to spend more time reading the facts presented on this archive of facts you might have read, on many occasions, the answer to your question.

        May I suggest you put more effort into establishing the facts and appreciating that there is absolutely zero admissible evidence to support the stories surrounding Hollie Greig and claims of her abuse by anyone other than Anne Greig, Robert Green and those who join with them in seeking to exploit her nor of claims that the death of her Uncle Roy was anything other than suicide.

        Let us not forget that as I was originally providing the web site for Anne Greig and later on for Robert Green I received the cop[ies of ALL the evidence they were able to provide – including the autopsy report and death certificate of Roy Greig.

        Also I was provided with the original list of those claimed to have sexually abused Hollie Greig and her supposed co-victims.

        I did not publish the list at the time however I did publish it AFTER Stuart Usher and Robert Green printed it out and distributed it at a public meeting organised by Stuart Usher in Edinburgh.

        I was wrong to have done so and had, like many subsequently, been duped by Anne Greig & Robert Green and their lies, which were made with such conviction that they seemed plausible and trustingly I foolishly believed them.

        As soon as I was certain there was not a shred of admissible evidence of any credible nature I gave Anne Greig & Robert Green due warning that if they were unable or unwilling to provide the evidence they kept claiming they had I would have no opption but to denounce them as at best delusional but more likely self sertving liars.

        No credible evidence was EVER forthcoming and I duely appologised to any who my gullibility had harmed and clearly stated that there was absolutely no case to answer based upon the original fantasies I had been foolish enough and trusting enougjh to believe.

        May I suggest Mr. Stevenson, if that is your real name and not some cowardly nom de plume, that you run along and check out the facts and hopefully you will have the intelligence to appreciate that you too were lied to and duped and hopefully you will have the integrity and ethical foundations to admit your errors and apologise to those you have so stridently and falsely berated.

        Perhaps you will have the courage to denounce those who had, like you, so offensively lied and sought to defame.

        Regards,
        Greg_L-W.

  4. Sharon Ann Zaki said


    Just to expand on Greg’s comments, it has to be said that he gives EVERYONE a right of reply on his comments section. He’s even generous enough to allow you ‘Hollie Greig Justice’ fraudsters a say. The same cannot be said about you. I tried to post a comment on the HGJ blog http://holliegreigjustice.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/the-hollie-hoax-squad-call-in-the-team.html but was blocked. All I was trying to say was: “Tell me, spawns of Satan, what price for selling your soul? How do you lot sleep at night?” The numpties did respond to my non-existent comment!: “SHAZZER DO YE REALLY THINK WE WOULD LET A LOW GRADE NUT CASE LIKE YOU COMMENT LOL! YOU ARE THE BRIDE OF SATAN!”

    What unbelievably pathetic creatures these charlatans are.

    • Hi,

      naturally I publish the questions and comments of those who write to me or this blog on this matter – for as long as they are not merely offensive, foulmouthed or abusive and if they provide their identity.

      Without PROOF of a genuine identity I do however reserve the right to NOT publish the comments of some.

      The aim of this blog is both as an archive and to provide such facts as can be delivered regarding the Hollie Greig ‘STORIES’ and the fantasies surrounding her uncle’s suicide.

      I have always been willing to discuss the matter with anyone who is willing to discuss the issues in a calm, polite and logical manner based on both opinion and provable facts.

      I appreciate that the claims surrounding Hollie Greig have attracted some of the most evil of individuals and the gutter sweepings of society hell bent on defaming anyone who dares to hold an opinion they wish to found on facts and admissible evidence.

      Consider the lies and fantasies of scum like David Icke, Belinda McKenzie, Matt Quinn, George McKendrick, Ian Milne, Brian Gerrish, Paul Drockton, Robert Green, Jon Stevenson, Ian Ferran and the many other low lifes who have crawled out from the sewers of society to exploit the unfortunate Hollie Greig.

      I publish the incoming comments as all too often the truth is best exposed by observing the style, stridency, abuse and belligerency of those seeking to promote or defend lies!

      Regards,
      Greg_L-W.

  5. js42uk said [JonStevenson42]

    So you continue to name the victims and the accused,despite the fact that its ILLEGAL and immoral ?

    • js42uk said [JonStevenson42]

      No you do not Greg as for the other commentator I have no idea what she is talking about

      • js42uk said [JonStevenson42]

        Who is Ian Milne? You really don’t inspire confidence when you don’t get these poor peoples names wrong.

      • Hi,

        yet again Jon Stevenson you presume to criticise and seek to denigrate yet never5 have you put forward any sound admissible evidence that could sustain a prosecution in support of your apparent fantasies regarding Hollie Greig and her uncle who clearly committed suicide whilst inebriated and under suspension from his job whilst being investigated regarding criminality at his place of work.

        Regards,
        Greg_L-W.


      • Hi,

        yes indeed Jon Stevenson I have noticed that you have difficulty comprehending both facts and comments that do not agree with your unsubstantiable beliefs regarding the Hollie Greig ‘Stories’.

        The failure to produce convincing or admissible evidence to support your stories seem consistent yet you presume endlessly to try, in desperation, to denigrate any discussion of the facts and the lack of provenance of the Hollie Greig stories.

        Let us not forget that having spoken to Hollie Greig on a number of occasions I am able to testify that her comprehension skills are only surpased by her lack of communication skills – leading to the sustainable belief that her speech and comprehension skills are as those of a small child – at times as low as three and sometimes arguably those of a 9 or 10 year old.

        Regards,
        Greg_L-W.

    • Hi,

      yet again Jon Stevenson I note you seek to impose your views and criticise the actions of others in promotion of your rather more obvious lack of morality and arguable criminality in repeatedly endeavouring to promote the discreditted claims of Robert Green, Stuart Usher, Anne Greig and others who promote the discreditted stories of the sexual abuse of Hollie Greig and the death of her uncle Roy regardless of the fact that there is zero admissible evidence to support the stories.

      Moat and Beam spring to mind.

      Regards,
      Greg_L-W.

      • PY said [JonStevenson42]

        No I understand what you are about,did you admit that it is Illegal for you to name the accused and the allegedly abused children,it really is a very simple question requiring of you a yes or no answer.

        You surely are seeking through your blog imposing your viewpoint ,otherwise,why bother

      • Hi,

        to deal with your repetitive comments and obdurate refusal to accept facts Jon Stevenson:
        You state:
        ‘No I understand what you are about,’
        Clearly you haven’t a clue or you would not need to keep asking the most simplistic of questions.

        Such as:
        ‘did you admit that it is Illegal for you to name the accused and the allegedly abused children,it really is a very simple question requiring of you a yes or no answer.’
        Since you are clearly crano rectally retentive be advised I am under absolutely no obligation to respond to your tedious comments when I have answered same4 within the text of my blog on many occasions. You arrogantly presume to be both judge and jury yet have absolutely zero ability to comprehend either ethics or integrity.

        Having claimed to know in your first sentence exactly why I act as I do you now clearly admit you haven’t a clue – making sopmething of a fool of yourself:
        ‘You surely are seeking through your blog imposing your viewpoint ,’

        Clearly your judgement is completely wrong as I have no desire to impose MY viewpoint – I have acted to provide such facts as I have been able to ascertain, with appropriate evidence for the intelligent ethical reader to appreciate the obscene dishonesty of the exploitation of Hollie Greig by criminals and scoundrells, taking advantage of her mental incapacity and disabilities to further their scurilous ‘stories’ about her life and the sucicide of her5 uncle Roy.

        Having lept repeatedly to inaccurate judgement you ask:
        ‘otherwise,why bother’

        I clearly can not expect someone of your decvuious and deluded mind set to understand why someone might wish to expose those who lie, distort and misrepresent facts in their exploitation and abuse of a isabled victim of their abuse.

        I have presented the facts and set out to present all available factual material for people of integrity to make their own conclusions in this matter – A measure of the vile supporters of the evil misrepresentation deliberately set out to lie about me and others in a dewsperate attempt to defame us and even dishonestly set up web sites to pretend they were myself going so far as to steal the web log of facts which I had presented at http://stolenkids-hollie.blogspot.com/ to suppress and obfuscate the evidence, the facts and the details surrounding the issue – so that they could continue to criminally and dishonestly continue to exploit Hollie greig and the issues invented surrounding her, for their own perverted and perverse gain.

        Let the facts speak for themselves and the behaviour of the vile exploiters of Hollie Greig and the tissue of lies they have fabricated about her alleged sexual abuse, for which there is no admissible evidence as with the efforts to refute the clear facts of Roy Greig’s suicide.

        Read the entirety of this blog site – seek to have the original http://stolenkids-hollie.blogspot.com/ reinstated with all the evidence therin presented and apologise for your behaviour and on behalf of the desperate measures taken by you and your fellow travellers to defame and lie about me – Have the integrity to permit intelligent people to read the facts without ‘spin’ or deliberate misrepresentation to draw their own conclusions – as have the courts!

        Your manner, style and behaviour together with your fellow travellers has done more to expose the dishonsty of your position than any presentation of facts I have ever been able to make.

        Regards,
        Greg_L-W..

  1. js42uk said [JonStevenson42]

    yet again Jon Stevenson you presume to criticise and seek to denigrate yet never5 have you put forward any sound admissible evidence that could sustain a prosecution

    I didn’t know that was my job!

    • Hi,

      well you had better add that to the list of things you clearly do not know or understand – since you have presumed in your arrogance to assume the role of inquisitor seemingly in an effort to defame to aid those who are abusing and exploiting Hollie Greig as your co-conspirators.

      You are clearly unable to provide evidence of any credibility to support the abusers yet seemingly seek to defame and criticise those who seek to present facts to establish the truth.

      Regards,
      Greg_L-W.

      • js42uk said [JonStevenson42]

        well you had better add that to the list of things you clearly do not know or understand – since you have presumed in your arrogance to assume the role of inquisitor seemingly in an effort to defame to aid those who are abusing and exploiting Hollie Greig as your co-conspirators.

        I asked you a simple question,you seem unable or unwilling to answer.

        Is your publication of the names of the accused and victims not illegal,its not hard?

  2. Hi,

    asking your question again and again displays your duplicitous and obsessive nature, and apparent desperation to try to defame – particularly in the light of the fact that I have answered your question in some detail.

    Try to get over your self importance whilst we come to terms with your duplicity.

    Regards,
    Greg_L-W.


  3. Hi Greg

    Are you able to post my comment on my behalf i.e. saying that it is from Sharon Ann Zaki. That comment has disappeared into the ether somewhere! I’ve had this problem before with Word Press, when trying to post on other blogs.

    Sharon Ann Zaki’s.comment is:

    For anyone else reading this [other than Greg and the ‘Hollie Demands Justice’ desperados] i.e. for the sane, decent folk who are interested in truth, I’ve done another update of my site in response to the 28/12/13 post on the HGJ blog http://www.sharonkilby.co.uk/site/WHY_THE_HG_STORY_MAY_HOLD_THE_KEY_TO_REVEALING_THE_SHILLS.php Scroll about 1/3 of the way down.

    Now, clarification needed. Take a look at the comment from admin on this site http://orderoftruth.wordpress.com/2013/12/20/the-peoples-voice-not-so-much-for-the-people-tpv-thepeoplesvoice-icke-holliegreig/ “For any visitors, we would like to inform you that this idiot troll is posting under the name of Job Stevenson with the name ‘js42uk’ (as you can see from the comments they have made). We have verified that this is not the real Jon Stevenson.” [Presumably the ‘b’ in Job is a typo]. Also see the comment from admin on this site http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t7563p310-hollie-greig-the-devastating-fantasies-of-mother-mrs-anne-greig-and-the-lies-of-robert-green-and-belinda-mckenzie “Unfortunately, JS42UK, who definitely is the same individual as HGJ”

    So this JS42UK/Py/Pyrite/Jon Stevenson is the same person as the Hollie Greig Justice/HGJ/HDJ clown i.e. a mega-troll i.e. NOT Jon/Pyrite from the Hollie Hoax camp.

    The people who make up ‘Hollie’s Army’ are all big-gun trolls; the most loyal, trusted and talented Establishment [masonic] agents.

    Posted by Greg_L-W. for Sharon Ann Zaki.

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Posted by: Greg Lance-Watkins

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