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Sonia Poulton’s interesting insight into the liar David Icke

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/01/2014

Sonia Poulton’s interesting insight into the liar David Icke

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This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE CLICK HERE

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Hi,

this posting of a factual account of her dealings with David Icke gives an interesting insight into the vile man’s style and behaviour.

Some may remember that when he published unfounded lies about me in an effort to defame me and denigrate the facts I was publishing some years ago to expose the lies surrounding Hollie Greig as invented by Anne Greig and Robert Green and widely promoted by Robert Green, Belinda McKenzie, George McKendrick, David Icke, Matt Quinn and many others.

As is well documented I was the first individual to speak out exposing the scam , as soon as I was able to show beyond reasonable doubt that I had been lied to and had misguidedly for a short period promoted the hoax on behalf of Anne Greig and later Robert Green.

For having shown that the entire story was a tissue of lies, conjecture and fantasy put about by wicked and criminal individuals not only did I receive death threats and cyber bullying as can be found by a brief search of the internet.

David Icke was amongst those seeking to promote lies about me and although I had a cast iron case my solicitor and barrister advised me that it was probable that David Icke would prove to be ‘a man of straw’ having sheltered his assets either off shore or under various subterfuges and that I would find myself liable for costs (considerable) with no means of recouping them from the odious low life David Icke.

There was also the possibility that in view of the idiotic nature of many of his other claims as with his claim to be some sort of second coming or messiah and his fantasies about lizards and the moon, just to mention two – he might have an defense of unsound mind!

I decided to drop the case as clearly those who knew me were well aware of the pack of lies he and others were peddling, and the opinions of others about me were of no consequence to me!

The same was also true of the clear case showing the dishonest efforts of low lifes such as Belinda McKenzie, Matt Quinn, George McKendrick and others of even less consequence or credibility.

That David Icke is a liar, a cheat, a bully, a scoundrel and self serving is irrefutable – it would seem that Sonia Poulter has reason to believe he may well also be dishonest thief:

SONIA POULTON 

I have been overwhelmed by the support I have received following my departure from The People’s Voice on Monday, January 6, 2014. 

This is my statement of events. 

During the brief period when I worked as a full-time journalist and presenter at The People’s Voice office in Wembley – every week day, sometimes 12 hours a day for the period from November 18th to January 6th – various volunteers and staff made alarming comments to me about the financial accounting at The People’s Voice. 

I was told that public money had been ‘squandered’, ‘spent unwisely’ and ‘in an easy-come, easy-go manner’. I was informed that various pieces of equipment, including a handheld camera, had ‘gone missing’. It was alleged that money had been paid to someone who did not warrant being paid and who shared a property in Wembley with David – amongst other accusations. 

Given these suspicions I was not happy with David Icke and Sean Adl-Tabatabai – TPV’s station manager – suggesting a second telethon on January 3, 2014. This was to raise more money for TPV following a two-week Christmas break from live programming. 

I realised that the public, who had already donated far in excess of £300,000, was losing some goodwill towards TPV – and for a number of reasons. 

I felt, as did other members of staff who said it to me – but did not have the courage to say it to David Icke directly – that all financial dealings should be public and transparent. 

I believe, and conveyed this to David Icke, Sean ADL and Liz Roberts – in their respective roles as Station Manager and Production Manager – that all money paid out – including expenses and staff wages should be published monthly. This idea never progressed beyond the asking stage. 

This, and other issues reached a head for me on Friday night when I was asked to take part in the telethon to raise money even though I didn’t know entirely where the previous public money had gone to. 

I should add I refused point blank to take part in the first telethon in early November before the station had even launched. Not only was I unimpressed with some of the content of that telethon, as a representation of TPV, but I felt there was something wrong in asking the public for more money BEFORE they had seen even one programme. 

So it was that I was not happy to do this latest telethon but I did it because I wanted TPV to succeed. 

Despite my misgivings, I put my heart into it including organising a Question Time-style panel and a film recorded on New Year’s Eve about people who are doing important activism to make positive changes to our world. 

I was, and remain, proud of this input – and output – and all the people involved in making this happen and all for only the petrol money to cover the filming. 

After the telethon, I slept badly on Friday night and by Saturday morning I had sent an e-mail to David Icke outlining my serious concerns about the finances at The People’s Voice. 

I heard nothing back from him. This was unusual because David is not only a prolific writer but he has always responded within hours, sometimes minutes, of my sending him an e-mail. 

I arrived at the TPV office on Monday about 10am. David’s office door, a glass-type partition, was closed and I tapped on it. He refused to look up at me and kept staring at the screen in front of him. 

Undaunted, I opened the door, said ‘good morning’ and asked if I could have a talk with him. He refused. He said he had to wait until Sean arrived before we could talk. I asked him when that would be. He said any minute. 

Sean arrived about 45 minutes later. Liz Roberts, Head of Production, came to me and said they were ready for the meeting. Then, somewhat oddly, she led me to the darkened, sound-proofed studio where the music and performance segment of TPV is recorded. 

I was uncomfortable with this as I was uncertain why we were meeting in here seeing as David normally conducts meetings in his or Sean ADL’s office, both at the end of the TPV main office. 

Several chairs had been placed in the darkened studio in a semi-circle and I sat down on the chair that was most set apart from the others. Sean ADL took a seat and Liz Roberts went to get David Icke. It was silent between Sean and I and we waited a minute or so until David Icke joined us. 

I could see that David was already furious when he arrived in the room. He looked how I had seen him on several other occasions when he has lost his temper with members of staff. He sat down on the chair directly opposite me and in the middle of Sean ADL and Liz Roberts and I said, ‘who’s going to start?’ 

David said that seeing as I was the one with the allegations, it should be me. 

I told him that for the past few weeks people in the office – including volunteers and paid staff – had been coming to me and making troubling accusations about misappropriation of the funds. 

I had heard stories of nights out on expenses, of many rounds of drinks and food being bought in pubs, of takeaways and alcohol being ordered to the People’s Voice by – and for – paid staff members. 

There were even more outrageous accusations told to me including people who received money from TPV who had some personal involvement with David Icke. 

I told David, Sean ADL and Liz Roberts that TPV was struggling financially because public goodwill towards TPV was at a low ebb because, amongst other things, a lack of transparency. 

I said that I felt it personally important to see how the money had been spent up to this point – and not least because David always agreed with me about the importance of transparency in all dealings. 

David’s voice was raised and he demanded to hear more of my allegations and who they involved. 

I felt that this was some kind of a trap and I said I wasn’t going to name names at this stage and that I just wanted to see where the money had been spent. He refused. He said I would have to wait until the end of the year. He was furious that I dared to question the funds. 

His entire attitude was indignant and outraged by my request. I asked him if I would need to put in a Freedom of Information request to get the information from The People’s Voice regarding accounting. 

I was shocked by the corporate front that David Icke, Liz Roberts and Sean ADL were showing me with regard what had happened with the money and I said that I believed TPV was operating no differently – with it’s hierarchy of decently paid management, numerous unpaid volunteers and no accountability – to the corporations we despised. 

It was at this point that David Icke lost his temper completely. He started shouting that I was the most divisive character that he had ever met in the media and that everyone hated me at TPV. He asked Liz Roberts to back this statement up but she couldn’t. Given that Liz has previously stated in public in the office that I am ‘an example to all of us’, I didn’t feel that she could really back up his accusation with any credibility. 

This emotional attack from David alarmed me greatly. I had only asked for financial transparency and not only was he refusing to let me have this information but he tried to use intimidation techniques to deflect me from pursuing it too. 

David Icke tells everyone I am a PROPER journalist. His words. When I am on air I am told he walks from office to office, pointing at the screen and saying ‘that’s real journalism’. The big problem here is 

David Icke is only happy when I am investigating anyone or anything other than him and The People’s Voice. 

I am not saying that anyone has carried out fraud at TPV. I have no proof of that. What I am saying, however, is that I believe there exists a cavalier attitude, at times, to the spending of public funds. 

At TPV I have seen the letters of people who donate their hard-to-come-by cash. Children giving up their pocket money and pensioners contributing part of their pension. It greatly upsets me to see the laissez faire attitude towards their money. 

The statement on my departure released by TPV and written by David Icke – according to Liz Roberts in correspondence with presenter Barrie Sharpe – was designed to smear me. 

None of what was said even came up in the meeting yesterday morning. David Icke’s statement was an affront not only to me but to anyone who supports me and to anyone who donated their time, efforts and money to TPV. Thank goodness so many people have seen right through it and reacted accordingly. 

I would be more than happy to debate TPV with David Icke, Sean Adl-Tabatabai and Liz Roberts on camera and in a neutral environment. I have nothing to hide. 

It is not me who seeks to take people into a darkened room away from other people in the office at the point when the person wants to address important questions about alleged financial mismanagement. I am, and remain, transparent in my dealings. 

I am informed by a member of staff that there have been orders to ‘remove me’. This includes taking down a great deal of information I have conveyed on film at TPV including a video we shot on New Years Eve about children being taken into care and about people campaigning against fracking. 

David Icke says The People’s Voice is about ‘the content and not the personality’. If that is so, why would he have sanctioned the removal of ‘the content’ that I contributed to The People’s Voice? 

Content, I might add, that I have already copied and feel totally at liberty to post on to Youtube. I believe that the public, who paid for this, is entitled to that and it should not be stopped because of the vindictive behaviour of people who claim to know better. 

I am in no doubt that David Icke shouted at me in the meeting because, rather than accept that there may be a problem of a certain culture growing at TPV, he chose to deflect the blame for his failings onto me and my character. 

I acknowledge that I am capable of being a fiery character. I’ve said it on camera. It’s part of who I am but it is entirely wrong – as they suggest in the official statement about my departure – to suggest that I don’t treat people with respect. 

You only have to look at the wonderful things that have been said about me following my departure from TPV. I am quite blown away by the strength of support. 

So I have to ask: why would David Icke attempt to smear my character? I only asked where The People’s Voice money had gone to? 

Hardly an unreasonable question, I thought, given myself – and many others – were contributing great amounts of time and money to making TPV happen. 

I’m not looking for a medal but I did more than work at TPV, I have also put my hand in my own pocket and have funded a hire car, petrol, pictures and food for volunteers. 

I am far from financially wealthy and I am a single parent with only my income coming in, but I have contributed what I could because I believed in what TPV was capable of. 

I am deeply upset what has come to pass. It has taken me a day to compose my thoughts into any semblance of order. I believed in the capability of TPV. I don’t anymore. As it stands, it is not capable of being the true media we so desperately need in this world. 

When I was sat in the meeting yesterday morning I realised that these three people before me were not capable of creating an alternative media. I knew that if I were to stay a moment longer I was in danger of damaging my own hard-won reputation of honesty and misleading the public too. I could not do that and that is why I left. 

I am also upset because there are people at TPV whom I have become very fond of. Good people who want to make a better world but who are unaware – or don’t know how to deal with – the real issues of injustice right under their noses. 

It won’t stop me trying to create that media I can imagine, though. I have gained a great deal of understanding of what not to do and I have plans right now how to implement my own show. I will only do this if it can be completely transparent because that is what I believe we need more of in this world. I thought TPV could offer that. It didn’t. 

For the record, David Icke needs to understand that respect – as his official statement about me calls for – is a two-way street. He is so used to being all-powerful in his environment that he responds badly to being challenged. 

Despite repeatedly saying that ‘presenters have free-will’ David Icke did not hesitate to make known some of his dissatisfactions with me inviting on guests whom he had fallen out with in the past. 

I witnessed that side of him and so did Sean ADL and Liz Roberts. They sat back and allowed it to happen. That’s why they are still there. They do not challenge him because to do so would challenge the comfortable and unaccountable existence at TPV that they have come to enjoy. 

Both Sean ADL and Liz Roberts publicly have stated that TPV may not survive beyond the end of January unless the station gets more money in. Well, as two of the people who have access to TPV’s funds, they would know. 

As of this afternoon I have not received the requested information on financial accounting. How difficult can it be to show how much has been donated to The People’s Voice and where and by whom it has been spent? 

Upon receipt of the information from The People’s Voice, I will report on my findings just as I report on the behaviour of other organisations. 

The silence from the station, in response to the extraordinary support of people who are appalled at the statement issued by David Icke on behalf of The People’s Voice, speaks volumes. 

This is my statement of the events of yesterday at The People’s Voice with David Icke, Liz Roberts and Sean Adl-Tabatabai. I have sent this statement to all these three people as well as posting it on my website and on social network sites.

Sonia Poulton, January 7th, 2014.

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Apart from the relevance of the lies of David Icke as I have shown this articles relevance to the Hollie Greig Hoaxes and criminal scams becomes more clear if you CLICK HERE
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Did Sonia Poulton Deliberately Lie for Robert Green?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/12/2013

Did Sonia Poulton Deliberately Lie for Robert Green?
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This site was first posted on on 22-Oct-2012 and material from the original
http://StolenKids-HollieGreig.blogspot.com were imported upto 03-Mar-2010.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the STORIES surrounding allegations of abuse of Hollie Greig are a dishonest and malicious hoax promoted by Anne Greig, Robert Green, Stuart Usher and others.

I freely admit I was conned into support of the claims, based upon lies and promises of evidence that never materialised. I apologise to anyone who may feel they have thus been defamed by my error.

For details of the background we would ask you to read the PAGE CLICK HERE

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‘The People’s Voice’ not so much for the people 

tpvspIn her programme, ‘Sonia Poulton – Live’ on ‘The People’s Voice’ channel, she recently had a guest by the name of Robert Green who spoke about an alleged abuse case in Scotland concerning a woman with Down’s syndrome called Hollie Greig.

Up until I watched the show I knew little of the accusations, only that someone alleged that there was a paedophile ring operating in Aberdeen which allegedly involved prominent members of the community, including police, the local sheriff, social services, medical staff, and others.

Watching the programme, I noticed there seemed to be a lot of inconsistencies in what Green was saying, and he didn’t give any real evidence of his claims. Something just didn’t seem right about the overall feel of the programme, so I started to take a look on the internet to try and find a little more information.

Surprisingly, most of what I found was repetition of the same story Green had relayed on the programme, even some of the same inconsistencies. A closer look revealed that most of the information was not based on any evidence whatsoever, and some of the connections made in the case on various websites were so tenuous I could not understand how an experienced journalist could not have had some serious doubts about the case, or asked Green some very hard questions.

After all, according to the promotional material of the streaming channel it is supposed to be unbiased, give all sides a right to their say, and ask the ‘hard questions’. It seems that all of those admirable journalistic claims did not apply to this episode.

I am not going to go into detail about the case, and all I can say is look for yourself. There is far more REAL evidence to cast serious doubt on Green’s account of the story than there is REAL evidence to back up Green’s claims – it is a total sham as far as I can see.

As I was looking around, I thought I would have a look at Sonia Poulton’s Twitter feed – and there was revealed just how bias the report on her programme was.

The Twitter conversation (or whatever it is called) involved Sonia Poulton and a user called ‘Hollie Greig Hoax’ who are apparently some of the people accused by Green of being involved in the allegations of a paedophile ring.

It was certainly an interesting read. Apparently, Sonia Poulton has refused to allow the accused to reply! It sounds more like the a modern case of the Pendle Witches than fair reporting and allowing all sides to have their say. She also stated that Green has ‘incredible evidence’ – now does that mean ‘unbelievable’ and difficult to believe, or does it mean ‘marvellous’ – look up the definition .

A little further digging revealed more about how Sonia Poulton treated the ‘accused’ in this case. Apparently, after Sonia Poulton refused to engage any further in the Twitter ‘conversation’, the ‘accused’ sent her a Skype request – which she also refused. If that were not enough, apparently Sonia Poulton hung-up when she was telephoned to discuss the report and the ‘accused’ right to appear on her programme. You can read about it on the Hollie Greig Hoax website.

When I started to look into Green a little bit further, it seems he has been warned many times to stop spreading his defamatory claims, even being imprisoned for his behaviour during which he sent letters to neighbours of the 22 people he accused of being involved stating they were paedophiles. The reason he has been warned is that he has NO evidence to make such claims! Incredible that he just doesn’t get the message, and even MORE incredible that supposed journalists don’t check their information before broadcasting Green’s claims.

It seems Green only likes journalists who will buy-in to his lies.

Green approached respected BBC investigative journalist Mark Daly, who has been involved in many of the biggest journalistic exposures of corruption and child abuse in the UK.

According to Green, a programme was commissioned by the BBC and was ‘pulled’ during the last week of production. This is yet another blatant lie by Green. After looking at Green’s version of events and the so-called ‘evidence’ he gave the reporter, the BBC decided they were not interested.

In a reply to Green, Mark Daly stated “I have been involved in some of the biggest investigations into corruption, racism, murder and child sex abusers broadcast in the UK over the past ten years of my career, and the suggestion that I would be complicit in a cover up of important journalism is insulting and deeply misguided.

After careful consideration some time later (before we had filmed anything), we, the programme team, decided we couldn’t proceed with the story. It became clear that the wider allegations that were being made would be impossible to verify, and indeed we had concerns about the veracity of many of them. On that basis, we made a professional decision not to proceed. As journalists, we are not in a position to pick and choose which allegations we want to run or believe, and the vast majority of these allegations were, in our opinion, un-provable. There are few more serious allegations one can make about a person than to call them a paedophile, and for that reason, the evidence has to be of the utmost quality. And in this case, I’m afraid it fell far short of this hurdle”

There is an interesting interview with Mark Daly about Green and his claims on YouTube.

So why on earth would Sonia Poulton think that anything Robert Green had to say in his accusations was true without checking first. This man has a long history of being unreliable at the very least.

‘The People’s Voice’? I don’t think so – more like a ‘channel’ to support ridiculous and tenuous conspiracy theories bandied about by anyone.

I had though (and hoped) that ‘The People’s Voice’ was capable of delivering what it said it could, but obviously it can’t.

The programming seems to be rapidly turning into a minority channel for followers of Icke and the usual conspiracy brigade, rather than a credible source of reliable and unbiased information. It is a shame, because there are some subjects that do warrant our attention, but are mixed in with other ‘stuff’.

Mainstream media is certainly not perfect and seems biased. But at least there may be a semblance of reliable information that you can make your own mind up about through intelligent analysis and research. I can only describe ‘The People’s Voice’ as an alternative version of the same but with more sensationalism and misdirection. Perhaps that’s why some of Icke’s celebrity chums didn’t get together and finance it.

I certainly won’t be watching. I did donate in the foolish belief that this was going to be something that was really worthwhile supporting – I have since cancelled. I would rather give my cash to people I meet who deserve it rather than fund this amateurish propaganda machine.

To view the original article CLICK HERE
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Obviously, based on factual information and provable evidence YOU must believe what you wish but without admissible evidence that Hollie Greig was ever sexually abused or any legitimate evidence that her uncle Roy Greig died in anything other than tragic circumstances committing suicide whilst drunk and under suspension from his job as subject of a police inquiry then may I suggest you do all you can to expose the lies of Robert Green, David Icke, Brian Gerrish, Matt Quinn, Belinda McKenzie, Anne Greig and the claque of criminal fools aiding them.

I freely concede I was amongst those who were fooled by the lies and not only apologised but have done as much as I can to expose those lies ever since it became clear to me that no sound evidence has ever been produced to indicate Hollie Greig was ever sexually abused nor that Roy Greig did not commit suicide.

When Robert Green & Stuart Usher printed and distributed a list of those they swore were perpetrators and victims of child abuse I misguidedly published the list on the web log which I set up and maintained for Anne Greig at the time.

I u7nreservedly apologise for my gullibility at the time and have published my apology alongside the list ever since to ensure there is absolutely no doubt that the list is a total fabrication by Anne Greig & Robert Green as published and distributed by Robert Green & Stuart Usher.

Sonia Poulton has claimed she has seen incredible evidence in support of Robert Green’s stories – I believe it is incumbent on her to publish the evidence or disambiguate the term ‘incredible’ and admit it was not credible and that she was duped, as was I, she has a duty to expose the lies and apologise for her part in promoting them.

As I have done.
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